This is huge! For the first time in over two years, Ukraine has begun taking back their land, resulting in a net territorial gain in February, according to Finnish OSI group Blackbird.

Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦

@randahl This is not coming for free though as expenditures of Europe+US surpass €300 bn and death toll is in the several hundreds of thousands.
This is not a football match

@genziana @randahl

nobody serious thinks it is a football match or even remotely implied that

this is ethnofascist mass murdering imperialism vs a people defending their lives and their lands

we're allowed to rejoice in their successes without being accused of being mere football spectators

@benroyce @randahl No accusations - just reminding that reaching the peace is not a matter of sq. kms but of dialogue

@genziana @randahl

tell the kremlin that, not us

putin and the kremlin have shown time and time and time again that dialog does not work. they are dishonorable. they keep no agreements. they have no intention of meeting peace. for them, dialog is just a tactic to twist to their advantage, and any "peace "is temporary in order for them to rearm, and then attack again on a stupid lie

you are very naive, or straight up lying, about what putin and the kremlin are and what they represent

@benroyce @randahl Yours is a very simplistic view of the events unfolding. It's in your rights to take the parts of Ukraine, however it is undeniable that this war is also a consequence of exploiting the change of leadership in Ukraine to turn it into a US-NATO outpost . Russia escalated the war, but this was not the only cause. EU is intentionally stalling the negotiations by proposing unfeisable terms such as european army presence in Ukraine

@genziana @randahl

😂 😂 😂

vatniks are so fucking easy to sniff out

NATO did not expand east, geopolitics professor

eastern europe ran screaming and pounding on the door to be let in

if you figure out why, what worried them, you might begin to catch a glimmer of honesty apart from your "blame the victim" stupid easy bullshit you push here

bullshit that you fell for as a pathetic moron lapping up hilarious kremlin lies

or that you are pushing here as the putin boot licking loser you are

@benroyce @randahl Wow! Labeling thoughts different than yours as foreign propaganda is not unprecedented.
I'm sorry that you are getting angry - but this will not change the real world. I invite you and who is reading to read more about the history of Eastern Europe from qualified sources and most importantly start reflecting a bit on the mechanisms that cause wars

@genziana @randahl

ah yes

the "noble differences of opinion" defense from the lying sleazebag vatnik

*anyone* who buys this "russia had reasons because NATO expansion" is a complete and utter moron, or a complete and utter liar

that's all you are and all you represent with your putin bootlicking bullshit

that is the source of your "honest point of view"

you are nothing more than a pathetic moron or a liar

100%

your weak stupid lies are for mocking, nothing more

you're a joke

surely you're not implying that the West's motives to provoke and remain in this conflict are pure

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@lxo @genziana @randahl

the west sucks

but anyone equivocating on that in defense of outright kremlin mass murdering ethnofascist imperialism is a fucking moron or liar

it's possible to dislike both the west and russia. in fact, that's the moral position

but it's not possible to respect this DARVO "reverse victim and offender" bullshit from tankies and vatniks. it's gaslighting

nothing pure or noble about it

it's lies to support imperialism

just because it isn't western imperialism? LOL!

@lxo @genziana @randahl

and fuck off with this "remain in this conflict" lie

*ukraine* is in the conflict because if they stop they are going to be genocided

to posit them as some puppet of the west, and that because the west might benefit in some way one must oppose ukraine's desire to keep fighting for their literal fucking lives is so viciously entitled it's hard for me to do anything but stick a middle finger up at this vile manipulation of what is actually going on here

so, what are Europe's pure motives to keep the conflict underway? surely it's not because they care so much more about Ukrainians than about Gazans, Venezuelans, Cubans, or Iranians, is it?

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@lxo @genziana @randahl

😂 😂 😂

why would europe be more worried about an ethnofascist imperialist army marching towards them more than any other conflict in the world?

holy shit

why are people so entitled and clueless, and think when they speak on a topic avoiding the most obvious fucking things about it, they do anything other than embarrass themselves?

alexandre: do you understand the difference between literal life and death, and a purity morality play going on in your head?

dunno about you, but if a larger empire were bombing and genociding plenty of peoples around my continent, I'd be more worried about it than about helping it disturb and weaken its also-imperialistic opponents.

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@lxo @genziana @randahl

Should a Pole be more invested in a fight against Russia? Or a fight against Israel or USA?

Nevermind it's not a contest. We're allowed to be more invested in one fight or another, without it meaning we don't care about another fight. That's a lying manipulative way of approaching the topic

If I feed the homeless as my primary effort and someone goes "so that means you don't care about imperialism?" this just means I'm dealing with a pathetic smearmongering edgelord

being both Latin-American and an Earthling, I'd have to say they should be far more worried about the USA than about any other imperial power

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@lxo @genziana @randahl

yes, as a brazilian, absolutely, you should be more worried about the USA

and a pole should be more worried about russia

right?

🤣 🤣 🤣

what is even your point alexandre?

it seems like you're arguing yourself into agreeing with me

you asked about "should." I get it that Poles have had a lot more negative experience with Russia than with the US, and that presumably twists their perceptions as to the riskier threats. I also get that I've had a lot more negative experiences with the US than with Russia in my lifetime, which twists mine the other way.

but objectively, Russia seems to have a hard time keeping up with a single war against a neighbor country, while the US initiates and maintains multiple wars at once all over the world, besides meddling with multiple other countries. even if Russia mainland is much closer to Poland, US military bases are even closer.

if I were European, I wouldn't be spending resources and weakening myself by supporting a fight against Russia, because I might need them to fend off the US. Ukrainians would be left to their own bad luck, and that would hurt because I'm 50% Ukrainian blood, but we're speaking of strategies and countries' interests here. I'd probably be allying with Russia and China and Brazil and India to try to mount a credible balance against the dangerously decadent but still by far strongest empire. those may not be the greatest and most trustworthy partners, but then, the US aren't either.

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@lxo @genziana @randahl

🤦 🤦 🤦

alexandre:

i want you to go to a pole

and i want you to explain to them that the usa is a greater threat to them than russia

good fucking luck

so many fucking airheads in this world

been there, tried that. and of course it wouldn't work, and I even understand why.

but then again, your question was not about how it is, but about how it should be, remember?

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@lxo @genziana @randahl

my use of "should" above indicates "from your reasonable understanding of human nature" not "is this the most ideal motivation possible in human nature"

it's probably a language miscommunication you don't understand that