Randahl FinkThis is huge! For the first time in over two years, Ukraine has begun taking back their land, resulting in a net territorial gain in February, according to Finnish OSI group Blackbird.
Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦
Davide Alimonti@randahl This is not coming for free though as expenditures of Europe+US surpass €300 bn and death toll is in the several hundreds of thousands.
This is not a football match
This is not a football match
ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIEStell the kremlin that, not us
putin and the kremlin have shown time and time and time again that dialog does not work. they are dishonorable. they keep no agreements. they have no intention of meeting peace. for them, dialog is just a tactic to twist to their advantage, and any "peace "is temporary in order for them to rearm, and then attack again on a stupid lie
you are very naive, or straight up lying, about what putin and the kremlin are and what they represent
@benroyce @randahl Yours is a very simplistic view of the events unfolding. It's in your rights to take the parts of Ukraine, however it is undeniable that this war is also a consequence of exploiting the change of leadership in Ukraine to turn it into a US-NATO outpost . Russia escalated the war, but this was not the only cause. EU is intentionally stalling the negotiations by proposing unfeisable terms such as european army presence in Ukraine
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vatniks are so fucking easy to sniff out
NATO did not expand east, geopolitics professor
eastern europe ran screaming and pounding on the door to be let in
if you figure out why, what worried them, you might begin to catch a glimmer of honesty apart from your "blame the victim" stupid easy bullshit you push here
bullshit that you fell for as a pathetic moron lapping up hilarious kremlin lies
or that you are pushing here as the putin boot licking loser you are
@benroyce @randahl Wow! Labeling thoughts different than yours as foreign propaganda is not unprecedented.
I'm sorry that you are getting angry - but this will not change the real world. I invite you and who is reading to read more about the history of Eastern Europe from qualified sources and most importantly start reflecting a bit on the mechanisms that cause wars
I'm sorry that you are getting angry - but this will not change the real world. I invite you and who is reading to read more about the history of Eastern Europe from qualified sources and most importantly start reflecting a bit on the mechanisms that cause wars
Martijn VosWhat kind of history of eastern Europe are you hinting at? The history of Russian imperialisms is well known.
It's good that its colonies are increasingly getting their independence; Russia is the last remaining colonial power in Europe that hasn't given up the majority of its colonies yet.
Russia wanting Ukraine back would be like the UK wanting India back, or Spain and Portugal wanting South America back. We should leave the age of colonialism behind us. No major power has an inherent right to control the lands of other people.
@mcv @randahl @benroyce @nicholas @lxo The idea of Russia "wanting back" Ukraine is a diversion. Whether you understand it or not, they are against Nato presence at their footsteps. Popular elections favored pro-russian yet neutralist presidents, who opened up trade agreements with EU - until the uprising at Maidan, at which point the hardline Eu-nato line won prompting Russia to occupy some russian speaking regions of ukraine. One can understand this even while not supporting Russia
@genziana @mcv @randahl @nicholas @lxo
" The idea of Russia "wanting back" Ukraine is a diversion"
sorry i stopped reading here
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WHY ARE YOU SO FUCKING DUMB
who do you think buys this shit? do you think we're sitting in ryazan main lining kremlin lies on rossiya-1 all day?
"russia invading ukraine isn't the topic... NATO is!"
again: who do you think buys this moronic, lying stupid shit?
@genziana @benroyce @nicholas @lxo @randahl
Do you honestly think anything you wrote justifies that invasion? Do you even understand why the Maidan uprising happened? Yanukovich backed out of those EU trade deals because of Russian pressure, and against the will of the people and parliament.
That is exactly the issue: that Putin will pressure and manipulate countries to follow Moscow's lead and not act independently from him.
He wants to control Ukraine and other former Soviet states. They can only be independent as long as they don't act like it. Otherwise Russian tanks show up, just like they did in Hungary in 1956 or Prague 1968.
And do you understand why Putin opposed that Ukraine-EU trade agreement? It would have boosted the Ukrainian economy and made Ukrainians rich. Lots of Russians have family in Ukraine, and seeing the difference between the weak Russian economy and a much stronger economy in Ukraine would have made them start asking questions about Putin's leadership.
That's what this is ultimately about: Ukrainian success would have dispelled Putin's propaganda and undermined his grasp on power. This was never about Russia, it's about Putin himself. Exposing his own failure is the real threat to him.
@mcv @randahl @benroyce @nicholas @lxo Ignoring the heavy wishful thinking, I will say that of course it's despicable that Russia tried to force Ukraine not to integrate more within EU (becoming a nice and tasty pool of cheap labour) - however we can understand why they felt threatened by this.
We can only speculate whethere it would have been possible to obtain something by negotiating with Russia, because we decided that they were just enemies not to speak to. Our integralism lead to this
We can only speculate whethere it would have been possible to obtain something by negotiating with Russia, because we decided that they were just enemies not to speak to. Our integralism lead to this
@genziana @benroyce @nicholas @lxo @randahl
"They". Putin. Putin is the only one who felt threatened by the possibility of Ukrainian success. Nobody else in Russia would deny it to them.
And what is there to negotiate with someone who only wants to control you and wants you to fail?
You're trying to defend the indefensible here.