ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESMar 4

#Texas #Primaries too close to call

Heads up:

With certainty over the coming months you will hear from "leftist" accounts

With all the easy signifiers, flags and symbols

Speaking with great high holy outrage

About some vile betrayal the winner, #Talarico or #Crockett, made against the left

It's a #toxicIdealism #psyop

They are right wingers cosplaying right here on #Mastodon

Do not fall for it

Show up in the general #election in November

#VOTE!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-primary-elections/texas-senate-results

#Cornyn #Paxton

Show threadSaraMar 4

@benroyce there's some accounts I follow just so I can watch this phenomenon in action

like, dude

you show up only for elections and global events involving explosions

you are some kind of indistinct anarcho-tankie, without any kind of clearly articulated politics and no nuance whatsoever

you claim to have cats but never post pictures of them

we recognize what you're doing here

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESMar 4

@sarae

tankies are the easiest for a right winger to fake, right wingers and tankies are both fascistic in their authoritarianism

and real tankies i think are just right wingers still evolving, and will eventually no longer be tankies, and wind up as straight fascists in a few months/ years

Show threadNature PunkMar 4

@benroyce @sarae I see the same thing in Libertarians and Anarcho-Capitalists (whatever the fuck that is) they are straight up small government conservatives who are only against authoritarianism when it involves their liberty.

They claim to be against government but love a bit of governance as long as they don't have to pay taxes to get it and can still do whatever the fuck they like in their own backyard.

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@naturepunk @sarae

both libertarianism and anarchism is dumb in that there is no such thing as a power vacuum. it gets filled one way or another

and so both libertarians and anarchists are getting steamrolled by the local gang leader turned warlord in their utopian vision of their libertarian/ anarchist paradise

they all seem like very earnest, very naive college sophomores who just read a book and are very excited but have zero experience with certain unfortunate aspects of human nature

Show threadNature PunkMar 4

@benroyce @sarae I'm an anarchist ;)

I don't expect to see the utopia I want to live in to exist in my lifetime but if humanity survives then why not in the future.

There isn't a power vacuum problem in anarchy. The power is distributed in a more equal fashion.

A warlord can only exist if they remove power from their foot soldiers to kickstart the regime. Where are they getting the power to do that from without foot soldiers? They have a bootstrap problem ;)

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@naturepunk @sarae

Thieves are thieves. There's always thieving, from the streets to Wall Street. There's an endless supply of thieves for any gang, always. And if you don't combat them they team up and take over

Anarchism does work. In small groups. It does not work for societies

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Show threadNature PunkMar 4

@benroyce @sarae there wouldn't be a Wall St nor any reason to thieve if everyone has equal access to all resources then the only property worth stealing would be owned by all and private property wouldn't have a value outside of the value an owner puts in it.

Like I said I don't think I'll see it because I don't know how to get past the problems in our society to get to that point but once there thievery is going to be minimal.

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@naturepunk @sarae

correct there wouldn't be any reason to thieve

there would still be thieves

you seem unaware of some rather unfortunate aspects of human existence

material need is not the only driver of human behavior

sometimes, an evil asshole is just an evil asshole

Show threadNature PunkMar 4

@benroyce I am naïve in the fact I don't believe in evil and I understand lots of people don't feel that way.

I just can't understand the concept behind that aspect of morality without the religious baggage it comes with. People can be good and I understand that means they are altruistic and got above the norms but I don't think doing less than the norm is evil only lazy or dickish.

Some people are sick but I don't believe people can be Evil.

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@naturepunk

That's fine you don't have to use my language or moralize. But you do have to admit that every single person can be provided for everything they need, and some will still be hellbent on destruction for selfish desires. As for why: just because they can. Because it's funny

Whatever you call this, whatever word you use, it's unfortunately very real

Show threadNature PunkMar 4

@benroyce I'm not sure it would be an issue on a scale that would impact society though.

It would be just kids cow-tipping or whatever the kids are getting up to in the local area when they are bored.

It's hard to envision how, if we ever get to that point, there can ever be enough people mobilised to cause the community real damage and not be considered ill and cared for appropriately.

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@naturepunk

yes but you're talking about handling these people in ways that destroy all of the precepts of anarchism. they have a will, and it clashes with society's will, and they have to be controlled and curtailed in some way, or otherwise the damage they can do is terrible. there is no magical treatment that can address them quickly and miraculously to change their intent. even outside of criminality, simple strong differences of opinions are enough to ruin how anarchism might work

Show threadNature PunkMar 4

@benroyce we're disagreeing now in a manner that isn't destructive in the slightest.

Not agreeing with something a community decides is something that will regularly happen but doesn't need to end the relationship with your peers just shift it slightly on a single issue.

Only rejecting a core tenet of society would be enough for a breakdown. I don't deny some people would do this but I don't see it as damaging to society.

Show threadᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIESMar 4

@naturepunk

well we see it already right? the fracturing of society to different goals winding up in quite dramatic tribal infighting

not even left v right, just inside the left even

such that what you envision, everyone agreeing on the goals mostly, and only a few minor pesky opinion differences serving as a sort of minor background noise, i don't think is how it can be, how it ever could be

we as humans just are not built that way, i think, unfortunately

but i'm not against improvement!

Show threadNature PunkMar 4
@benroyce It's always been the same. I used to belong to a socialist political party and the amount bickering and biting against people with exactly the same aims in society just a very slightly different form of governance when you get there was diabolical. That's what turned me away from more authoritarian forms of left leaning theology. Nice folks becoming nasty about what badge or banner somebody on the same march wears. Not for me.
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@naturepunk

yes exactly

and that takes us right back to the tankies

😩

uggh. so tedious they are

authoritarianism is our enemy, everywhere