Alice Averlong🏳️⚧️I wonder if anyone has made any software to detect keysmashing
(I mean, besides Pawsense, kind)
I mean, like, I could run it on my chat logs and see which lines were keysmashes
this chatlog is in... random order? huh?
I used Discrub to export a Discord chatlog for analysis, and it gave me a JSON of all the messages in that chat, but in random order.
weird! I mean I can just sort them by timestamp or ID (maybe?) but that's just the first time I've ever seen chatlogs that are not ordered
yep, sorting them by ID puts them in the right order.
so weird
I also need a way to detect "awawas" and the single key braincrash, like:
<kitten> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<kitten> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
pip install bottom-chat
hey look a keysmash generator, that's something:
there's also a thing where people say lots of quick lines in a row, like:
<kitten> as
<kitten> gh
<kitten> buh
<kitten> jg
So I need to code it to look at timestamps too, and define some kind of threshold for sending a bunch of nonsensical mini-keysmashes in a row
I'm embracing data-driven TDD:
FAILED test_lines.py::test_detectors[ghasdlfgjk-output4] - AssertionError: detect('ghasdlfgjk') is [], expected ['is_keysmash']
@kawa do you happen to have a handy regex for meows? or some examples of meows?
I discovered another platform doing this weird.
When you do an account export from tumlbr, they give you a conversations.zip file which has HTML (not JSON or XML, HTML) for each person you've messaged.
and the messages are in reverse chronological order, with the most recent messages at the top
I'm going to have to parse this HTML and then parse the dates in it and then re-sort it!
ugh
one of the biggest problems facing the keymash detector project is the fact that I'm doing it across tumblr/discord/matrix/mastodon/blusky/irc.
That's a lot of different log types to need to ingest
rj@foone oh I was thinking it interleaved all the tinelines, so you could have multiplatform keysmash drifting
Σ(i³) = (Σi)²
hyratel@foone at least you don't have to contend with Skype (the only platform I've ever seen which detected keysmashing/facerolling on the fly: the 'someone is typing' pencil animation would turn into 'angry breaking a pencil') which would get flummoxed on DST Fall Back, interleaving your post-jump messages with the clocktime of the pre-jump conversation, rather than keeping them in proper ULT order
Rue Mohr@RueNahcMohr I was gonna use Beautiful Soup for this, it's usually my go-to for extracting structured data from HTML
The cat who walks thru walls@foone
One tag makes you early
And one tag makes you late
And the one the lexer gave you
Don't fit any rules for dates
Go ask Alice
When her reader waits...
One tag makes you early
And one tag makes you late
And the one the lexer gave you
Don't fit any rules for dates
Go ask Alice
When her reader waits...
Random Damage 🌻@foone sounds like the display engine with output to file
@RandomDamage I mean I guess? but it's displayed chronological in the app, it just starts from the latest-end.
Klaus FrankDo you really have to ask at this point?
Malicious compliance. They've to provide these exports by law. Not just EU law, other countries outside of the EU implemented similar ones. But they do not want to see their product leave their platform. So they're making it as inconvenient and as useless as they can possibly get away with.
Same for why we have these dumb cookie banners. The simplest solution was always to stop the tracking as you'd no longer need any cookie banner then...
Hanneke
Sarah
dan
Kawaoneechan@foone mew mrw mrrp mlem mowwr
BetaRays
SneezingCactus
vivi 🔛🏡 EH23 
@foone one i wrote a while back:
/(m[reaou]{2,}w|m[re]+w|mr+p)/ (though it has some false positives, notably "tomorrow")
Thalia Archibald
gloriouscow@foone are you making a sub detector
Renalia - #1 pizza downloader@gloriouscow @foone could call it Sonar =w=
@gloriouscow no don't be silly.
I'm making a sub quantifier. I want to be able to analyze a chat and count how many times someone bottom-types
vindo
fluffy 💜
kira for scale@foone they could never automate bottoms away
@foone dammit now the ais are coming for hard working bottoms too?! /j
TerrorBite 🦁@foone I've made a keysmash generator in C. Here's some sample output:
kjsjHDSDGHJHdj;shjhy0g0gdshsk0yjhjgysys
kasdadlhlkfklfflslhjfghjlh'dsdcslhlhcbd
ksaFHHkjkgdhfsdg
hkhasljkjgdlgllhlhh';va'xl'lh;
dfalgkfsglgfkg,afahgs;jhF
fhfsagahlhshshjflhfghjljlasah
jgkgkAGHGJa;alafkljg'a8l'
dshjgfdldfhflslal7lf7ma
l4sghjh
fhfgf;f;k,hgaks;h:F:G&AGG&GDzahhagHFH
sdspsp;lk
ktljhwhwkjaswkj1shalslahlh1hlhjk1h1
a;fkamlfljaljhmljm'zGSAM
shFLFSJLHrgfghlvr;gsfglfgs
;OH"AGL"FBLdghj'kl'jf
lsdhsgk;KSGKHGDS8dgas
shsFLJ&GHlhj;j
3jkkgdqhqkg
jghhakjshg,khkl
kk1adjkha*D!HJAJ!D1da8h8h1JH!A*AAJ%
@TerrorBite ooh, fun!
kind of the opposite of what I need, but still neat to see. Are you gonna open source it? I'd love to see how it works
kind of the opposite of what I need, but still neat to see. Are you gonna open source it? I'd love to see how it works
@foone https://gist.github.com/TerrorBite/764e9cbeb577484fcf71dd5acad108b9
Just so you know, when I typed gist.github.com in my phone browser, it auto filled gist.github.com/foone
@foone this was trying my best to generate text that looks “smashy” rather than just random characters. Maybe there's some ideas in there for how you might detect it
@TerrorBite very cool. Interesting methodology to generating them!
@foone It still doesn't look quite like what actual people generate and I'm sure someone could write a long paper about the mechanics of keysmashing if this was studied
Luna Lactea@foone evil IRC client that generates & sends keysmashes, using your intended message as a seed value, instead of your intended message
PsyMar aka Sam@foone does the single key thing count if it's a live commentary on their actions
my mom and I had a cat who, while sleeping next to Mom in her recliner, would reach out in her sleep and type zzzzzzzzzzz
wyatt@foone that's interesting because the extension code seems to make an attempt to sort by timesamp
exportMessages = messageData.messages
.map((m) => new Message({ ...m }))
.sort((a, b) =>
sortByProperty(
Object.assign(a, { date: new Date(a.timestamp) }),
Object.assign(b, { date: new Date(b.timestamp) }),
"date",
sortOverride,
),
);
@gloriouscow the timestamp looks like it should sort properly, so... I don't know what's going on
@gloriouscow I already wrote code to sort it anyway:
all_messages.sort(key=lambda m:m['id'])
@foone i wonder if they did something like pass the results through an object instead of an array which will lose ordering
you're not nerd sniping me tonight though! NICE TRY
@gloriouscow yes. lets all ignore this problem and not waste time on it. we all have bigger and more tropical fish to fry