Emeritus Prof Christopher MayFeb 28

Apologies, I was not going to post anymore on Thursday's by-election.... but I've just read this comment by an un-named Labour ministersin the FT:

'A Green victory is easily the worst outcome'....

NO!!!!: a ReformUK Ltd win would have been the worst outcome... the very idea that Labour could see Hannah Spencer's victory as worse than Matthew Goodwin & Reform winning pretty much sums up the problem with the Labour Party!

#politics #Greens #GortonAnd Denton

Show threadChucklesFeb 28
@ChrisMayLA6 18 months in and Labour has already abandoned its principles. Of course they're panicking.
Show threadWalrus 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@celeduc @ChrisMayLA6

They had already abandoned those when I left, over 30 years ago.

Feb 28 at 10:29amWeb
Show threadAndy DeardenFeb 28
@Walrus @celeduc @ChrisMayLA6 they held a special conference specificaĺly to abandon their principles.
Show threadChucklesFeb 28

@Walrus @ChrisMayLA6 New Labour! Third Way! Red Dogs! It was remarkable how the US Dems and Labour sold out in lockstep. Blair/Clinton used to maintain a thin pretense of leftism over their rapacious neoliberalism, but neither party can be bothered to even *gesture* to its base anymore.

I argue that Labour is now to the right of Boris Johnson's government: climate, economy, immigration, health, and gender scrutiny madness.

Here's hoping the lot of them fucks off to Dubai, like Spain's ex-king.

Show threadusmu 🍋🏳️‍🌈🤟Feb 28

@celeduc @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6
A bit more niche, but the Dutch labor party (PvdA) did exactly the same thing in the 90s and have now merged with the Greens (Groen Links) because they got punished for it hard and went from coalition partner to small opposition party. Not a fan of that, because it causes a lack of diversity of left wing parties, but it is what it is.

Edit: spelling error

Show threadGerrit 🇪🇺🌍🍉🔻Feb 28

@usmu @celeduc @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6

Yes, and the Dutch Greens unfortunately agreed to that merge. Now they are not attractive to left voters, nor to right voters and are left drifting in an impossible split having aimed for a mostly empty center.

Show threadedwin ijsmanMar 1
@usmu @celeduc @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6 Wim Kok and his PvdA preceded Tony Blair's 'New Labour' in it's 'Third way' approach in the 1990's.
While he was lauded at the time, I think the loss of ideology has proven to be a big mistake now. When I see the merged Labour/Greens party in the Netherlands, it just feels like an uneasy mix of 'my grandma's party' and the 'Grachtengordel' (Amsterdam elitist) left.
Show threadGeorge BFeb 28

@celeduc @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6

Interesting that both Tony Blair and Bill Clinton both had a lot of contact with Epstein at around that time. It's wild how much garbage is tied together.

Show threadChucklesFeb 28
@gbargoud @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6 it's all obvious in retrospect (as usual)
Show threadChucklesFeb 28

@gbargoud @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6 Reagan, Thatcher, and the fall of the USSR cleared the way for this vile orgy of the ultra wealthy consuming the earth. The subsequent neoliberal politicians were just ushers passing out towelettes and receiving gratuities.

Some gratuities were peerages, board memberships, juicy speaking gigs, even juicier book deals, and then some of those gratuities were invitations to the literal Trump-Epstein orgies of child rape.

Show threadUnredacted Epstein files nowFeb 28
@celeduc @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6 Absolutely.
Show threadChucklesFeb 28

Juan Carlos Borbó aka "Juan Carlos I" (and hopefully last) is actually in Abu Dhabi.

Must be dull with no elephants or younger brothers to murder.

Show threadChucklesFeb 28
Given that the UAE is under air attack (presumably by Iran but who knows at this point) I guess there's hope that the ex-king's day might become very exciting.
Show threadJack Yan (甄爵恩)Feb 28
@celeduc @Walrus @ChrisMayLA6 New Zealand Labour were the Thatcherite party in the 1980s, right of anything we had ever seen. Sadly we were the poster child for neoliberalism, and we are still paying the price for it.