Danielle ForéI’m disappointed at how ingrained tribalism is in the desktop Linux landscape and how frequently I have to remind chatters to treat developers from other desktops with kindness and respect
Hazem FahmiYou may have a favorite desktop that you really love and feel passionate about and that’s great, but we should not be putting down other desktops or their developers for having their own way of doing things. They are our colleagues and often our friends. Just about everyone who works on desktop Linux is an expert in their field in one way or another. And everyone is passionate about what they do and cares deeply about the experience they deliver their users.
Except the Nazis. Bootlickers get fucked. Your shit is trash
Bernie the Wordsmith@danirabbit Whenever I hear a Mac user asking for a good distro I always comment about Elementary among others 😊
Linux and praxis: part of the resistance 🇵🇸 ☮️@berniethewordsmith @danirabbit
Come to Distrowatch to hear the moaning about Gnome and systemD.
☃️karolherbst☃️@danirabbit I wonder if we need a more direct approach there. Like if some super KDE fan constantly trash talks gnome on their gitlab or somewhere else, then that should also be reason enough to remove them from any other Linux desktop community, especially KDE (KDE is just a random example here, I don't want to imply that it's specific to any desktop).
It sometimes feels like we don't speak up enough about it and should more clearly state that none of this is acceptable anywhere at any time.
Thom, exceedingly pure@karolherbst @danirabbit It also always seems to be people who aren't actually involved in any of the desktop projects. From what I can tell, KDE, GNOME, Pantheon, etc. developers are all super friendly with one another and respect each other's work a lot.
@thomholwerda @danirabbit yeah.. it's mostly just the users.
But then it's not about specific users either, but more about setting up expectations and somehow not enough people say it's not okay to trash talk specific desktops constantly.
Like sure, some desktop have certain ways of doing it that suck for some users, but some just make it part of their online character to shit talk some desktop 😢
McNeely@karolherbst @thomholwerda @danirabbit it often feels like it's users treating developers and desktop environments like sports team fans
@McNeely @thomholwerda @danirabbit oh yeah, that's exactly what it is, just even more para-social thinking the devs of their fav desktop are their heros/friends/whatever.
It's absurd how entitled they feel sometimes, especially the "Linux is about choice crowd", which are the most toxic of them all as they often use that phrase to literally harass developers.
*_jߍyrope@Danielle Foré Why make a big fuzz about matters of personal taste at all?
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@danirabbit I’ve learned to appreciate the diversity in Linux desktops. For example I don’t like KDE, but others do, and if it means they’re using that instead of Windows, I will 100% support them.
f_ 🇵🇸@danirabbit Yeah I believe trashing other DEs to be dumb and just wasting time. I feel like Linux having so many desktop options and customisability to be a strength, and *especially* if these DEs actually collaborate with each other.
This isn't about competition, but about choice, something other OSes tend to lack, that is given to you for free.
For example, I run sway on my computer, I quite like it and I feel quite productive with it - but I still recommend other envs besides sway - I have friends I helped move to linux use completely different DEs I don't use, yet recommended to them (gnome, cinammon, Pantheon, KDE, etc...) and they love it. Despite not having really used KDE or gnome (etc) much in the last few years, I still enjoy seeing progress in these, I feel very happy seeing these get more and more polished over time, and the developers are super nice and helpful too :)
This isn't about competition, but about choice, something other OSes tend to lack, that is given to you for free.
For example, I run sway on my computer, I quite like it and I feel quite productive with it - but I still recommend other envs besides sway - I have friends I helped move to linux use completely different DEs I don't use, yet recommended to them (gnome, cinammon, Pantheon, KDE, etc...) and they love it. Despite not having really used KDE or gnome (etc) much in the last few years, I still enjoy seeing progress in these, I feel very happy seeing these get more and more polished over time, and the developers are super nice and helpful too :)