Danielle ForéI’m disappointed at how ingrained tribalism is in the desktop Linux landscape and how frequently I have to remind chatters to treat developers from other desktops with kindness and respect
You may have a favorite desktop that you really love and feel passionate about and that’s great, but we should not be putting down other desktops or their developers for having their own way of doing things. They are our colleagues and often our friends. Just about everyone who works on desktop Linux is an expert in their field in one way or another. And everyone is passionate about what they do and cares deeply about the experience they deliver their users.
☃️karolherbst☃️@danirabbit I wonder if we need a more direct approach there. Like if some super KDE fan constantly trash talks gnome on their gitlab or somewhere else, then that should also be reason enough to remove them from any other Linux desktop community, especially KDE (KDE is just a random example here, I don't want to imply that it's specific to any desktop).
It sometimes feels like we don't speak up enough about it and should more clearly state that none of this is acceptable anywhere at any time.
Thom, exceedingly pure@karolherbst @danirabbit It also always seems to be people who aren't actually involved in any of the desktop projects. From what I can tell, KDE, GNOME, Pantheon, etc. developers are all super friendly with one another and respect each other's work a lot.
@thomholwerda @danirabbit yeah.. it's mostly just the users.
But then it's not about specific users either, but more about setting up expectations and somehow not enough people say it's not okay to trash talk specific desktops constantly.
Like sure, some desktop have certain ways of doing it that suck for some users, but some just make it part of their online character to shit talk some desktop 😢
McNeely@karolherbst @thomholwerda @danirabbit it often feels like it's users treating developers and desktop environments like sports team fans
@McNeely @thomholwerda @danirabbit oh yeah, that's exactly what it is, just even more para-social thinking the devs of their fav desktop are their heros/friends/whatever.
It's absurd how entitled they feel sometimes, especially the "Linux is about choice crowd", which are the most toxic of them all as they often use that phrase to literally harass developers.