I don't want a city on Mars.
I don't want AI in every app.
I don't want data centres in space.

I want clean water.
I want a stable climate.
I want bees to survive.

@nickofnz I’m OK with a city on Mars so long we can send all the people responsible for the other items on your list to live there and it doesn’t destroy any more of our planet getting them there.
@billbennett yeah I could live with that
@billbennett @nickofnz Also we should plot their trajectory for maximum economy. It doesn't matter if they take eighty years to get there, as long as it uses less fuel.
@leighelse @nickofnz I don't actually think it will happen... at least not in the next 100 years. We may get a human or two there at a pinch... we may even manage to get them home again. But that will be the sum total.

@billbennett @nickofnz

Too expensive to get them all there.

A simulation should be enough

(given that some tech extremists peddle the idea that "we live in a simulation", they can't even really complain!)

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Our planet is already destroyed. How can we bring it back to life?
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@nickofnz Fucking bees, man. I really gonna miss them once the tech bros win

@nickofnz

Yes. All this.

That said, the sooner #LeonSkum can make the move to #Mars, the better for all of us on planet #earth

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Why not both? Both is good. Except the AI bit, 'natch.

@nickofnz

We don’t think about bees as often as we should.

@nickofnz

Real AI would also want clean water, a stable climate, and bees to survive.

We have advanced godsays in our apps.

GitHub - orhun/godsays: Rust port of the Terry Davis' (RIP) "god says" program

Rust port of the Terry Davis' (RIP) "god says" program - orhun/godsays

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@nickofnz @atkelar 1%: what did water and climate and bees ever do for us?! *destroys more*

🙄

@nickofnz I agree, but a research lab on the Moon and Mars would be neat.
@nickofnz "I want it all. I want all and I want it now!"
@nickofnz How selfish of you /s

@nickofnz

Where and when do we get to vote on which set of options we prefer?

#democracy #oligarchy

@nickofnz Clearly, people like us are the selfish ones. 🙄

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No Kings.
No Presidents.
No Billionaires.
No Borders.

@nickofnz I want rapists and pedos removed from office
@nickofnz
What plans do you have towards creating the world you want?
@nickofnz
Agree. Also I don't want any billionaires.
@nickofnz As long, as problems are properly solved on earth, I would be excited about colonies on moon, mars and elsewhere. But, I rhink they won't prioritize accordingly.
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I want rivers brimming with salmon and trout

@nickofnz
How is clean water, bees, and climate negatively impacted by a city on Mars? Or any space industry? Launches. But it's not a significant source.

Space industries help us see the climate in perspective. Our planet is precious, and we need to access the solar system to protect it, and bring the functionally limitless power and material out there to help us here on Earth.

https://everydayastronaut.com/rocket-pollution/

How much do rockets pollute?

Some might find it ironic that an organization like NASA, who studies our atmosphere, is ok with rockets polluting it so much. Or isn’t it weird that Elon Musk, the same person who is pushing sustainable energy with Tesla also has a rocket company that runs on fossil fuels? So today we are going to do a deep dive into this. We are going to see just how much of what rockets emit, go over how much different fuels and engine types pollute, then we will compare their emissions against other forms of transportation and other global polluters.

Everyday Astronaut
@nickofnz If a comet strikes the planet and darkens the skies for 500 years, and wipes out 99% of life on the planet, it will still be easier to form a human settlement here than on Mars.
@nickofnz we need more like you running stuff and fewer of these assholes we’ve got now.
@nickofnz Stuff like this! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkirk_Wheel
Lots of things... and really people who are only interested in tech for some profit motive aren't really interested in tech. They're interested in profits.
Falkirk Wheel - Wikipedia

@nickofnz I'm OK with the city on Mars, but yeah.
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