Just want to raise up the design of this “AI kill switch” in Firefox, and say how much I like it: it’s a top-level preference, and the design and content are both *very* clear in communicating the different levels at which you’re making decisions.

I would *love* to see more product companies roll out something like this for their en-LLM’d features.

In before the replies to say:

1. yes, I wish it was opt-in;
2. yes, I’d much rather something like this didn’t need to be designed in the first place

Given all that, and until that happy day that “AI” platforms are rendered down into their component pieces and sold for scrap, I think this is a really, really good piece of design.

(Thanks so much to @adarsh for flagging it in the first place: https://ruby.social/@adarsh/116138039920943577)
adarsh 🚲 (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image Good for #Firefox for finally putting in a "Please for the love of all that is holy, no AI anything ever" button into release 148. I am *very* curious to know the stats on uptake over time.

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@beep i get the impression we haven't seen it more because for the companies that would be adding such a feature it is all downside: work to do, and gives them a concrete internal number of what % of their users explicitly reject this thing they've essentially bet the farm on. and even mozilla i'm guessing wouldn't have done this if tons of people hadn't yelled at them. it's gonna be an interesting year.
@jplebreton Oh agreed, the incentive structures just aren’t there during this whole gold rush. That’s maybe another reason I like this design, though? Yes, it took a lot of external pushback, *and* Mozilla could’ve easily settled on a middling design. I love where they landed!

@beep I am once again wondering about selection bias.

What portion of users who eagerly check the AI kill box will have not also unchecked the anonymous metrics opt-in box?

@beep Yes please also with LinkedIn for its labyrinthine (dark pattern) notifications system, which makes me more angry each time a new bogus category is invented and then I am 'auto opted in' and SPAMmed on it with a misleading subject line...
@beep yeah, they did a good job

@beep #GitHub really took the biscuit—this is just wild and deceptive beyond any morale:
– They intentionally rolled out #Copilot for general "availability" on Christmas Eve(!) 2024, to be able to maliciously reply to all complaints with "sorry, our devs have gone home for the holidays. There's nothing, we can do. You gotta understand this. Leave them and their families their celebrations and recreational time"

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https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/147437#discussioncomment-11870995

How do I disable Copilot? · community · Discussion #147437

Select Topic Area Question Body Hi! Copilot has appeared on my GitHub WebUI and I wanted to ask where can I disable it? Thanks!

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@beep

– Furthermore, they had put a disabled(!) "Disable" button into the #AI settings, so that they could claim "what are you looking for? It's right there!". After complaints filled their inboxes, the deviously cooked up a "hide" button, which, semantically is not the same as "disable" and refused to comment on that gaslighting attempt. Because, if they did, they would have had to admit that they had no intention of giving their users any choice whatsoever

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@beep

– On top of that, they censored criticism by marking all of it as spam so people wouldn't stumble upon opposition

But this is unfortunately not surprising at all as GitHub was demoted to a sub company of Copilot at #Microsoft and the then CEO said that people should "embrace AI or leave"

3/3

@beep
Better still. Don't add these worthless features.
Ethan Marcotte (@[email protected])

In before the replies to say: 1. yes, I wish it was opt-in; 2. yes, I’d much rather something like this didn’t need to be designed in the first place Given all that, and until that happy day that “AI” platforms are rendered down into their component pieces and sold for scrap, I think this is a really, really good piece of design.

beepin’

@beep

Also, Default state should always be Off.

Switching it on should be a choice, not an assumption.

Ethan Marcotte (@[email protected])

In before the replies to say: 1. yes, I wish it was opt-in; 2. yes, I’d much rather something like this didn’t need to be designed in the first place Given all that, and until that happy day that “AI” platforms are rendered down into their component pieces and sold for scrap, I think this is a really, really good piece of design.

beepin’

@beep

Bugger, only the main post showed here. Apologies and kudos

@faduda All good! Replies still feel a little finicky on masto.
@beep I'll be honest - because I like Firefox a lot, this was all it took to pull me back to using it.
@beep I think praising the slop-shovelers for belatedly adding an option to switch to a null shovel after they’ve shoveled slop in our faces, is too much encouragement
Ethan Marcotte (@[email protected])

In before the replies to say: 1. yes, I wish it was opt-in; 2. yes, I’d much rather something like this didn’t need to be designed in the first place Given all that, and until that happy day that “AI” platforms are rendered down into their component pieces and sold for scrap, I think this is a really, really good piece of design.

beepin’

@beep yeah, I read that before I commented, and it reads like you think that makes the current situation ok (just not ideal), but it doesn’t come close.

(I’d dig up my old post about their undermining trust, but this app doesn’t let me search while composing)

@beep Such options must always be opt-in not opt-out!
@beep I'd also appreciate more cute foxes
@kris extreeeeeemely same
@beep Considering how much they push for it, my conspiratorial mind thinks this is a dummy button to calm criticism from users down. I won't trust it until I see some proof that the LLM stuff is actually disabled.
@beep Firefox was my first loooove - and it will be my laaaaast ❤️

@nice2meatu Firefox of the future, and Firefox of the paaaast...

@beep

@beep
Not pushing any future AI enhancements? Yeah, right. Just wait down a few versions.

"Oh right, we said we wouldn't, but all those people turned it off back a few years ago, and those AI features have improved so much by now, they just don't know what they're missing ! We're just going to give them a little nudge here to get them to enable it again."

See also:
- "This is a perpetual license to this software and all future versions"
- "... Oh right but THIS version is like a NEW product."