Yes, you may be killed by falling human made space junk, but the odds remain small(ish) that will occur. The (almost inevitable) #KesslerSyndrome may also prevent future #space flights if all those #satellites in Low Earth Orbit start colliding, creating countless debris.

However, we *ALL* have to worry about the ‘chemical problem’ being created by SpaceX et al in the upper atmosphere. I have been banging on about this for a while and the attached article summarises the science in an easy to understand way - I have pasted the bit about the ‘chemical problem’ below because we *ALL* need to understand what the billionaires are doing to the planet while we are watching.

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Debris on the ground attracts immediate attention, but atmospheric scientists are tracking a slower process with potentially larger consequences. When satellites vaporize in the mesosphere, 50 to 80 kilometers above Earth, they release clouds of vaporized metals that condense into aerosol particles. Those particles descend into the stratosphere, where Earth’s protective ozone layer resides.

Aluminum is the element of greatest concern. Upon reentry, aluminum oxidizes into aluminum oxide nanoparticles. A single 250 kilogram satellite generates roughly 30 kilograms of these particles. Unlike chlorofluorocarbons, which directly destroy ozone, aluminum oxide acts as a catalyst. One particle can facilitate chemical reactions that destroy thousands of ozone molecules over decades without being consumed.

Researchers from the University of Southern California’s Department of Astronautical Engineering documented an eightfold increase in atmospheric aluminum oxides between 2016 and 2022, directly correlating with the proliferation of satellite constellations, a finding reported in detail by CNET. In 2022 alone, reentering satellites released an estimated 41.7 metric tons of aluminum, approximately 30 percent more than the natural input from micrometeoroids.

Projections based on current deployment schedules suggest annual aluminum oxide emissions could reach 360 metric tons, a 646 percent increase over natural background levels, according to research highlighted by Popular Mechanics. Because these particles take 20 to 30 years to descend into the ozone layer, the atmospheric chemistry of today’s satellite fleet will not manifest as measurable ozone loss until the 2040s. By then, the upper atmosphere could already be saturated with catalysts.

NASA high altitude sampling flights over Alaska in 2023 detected the signature of this process. At approximately 60,000 feet, instruments found that 10 percent of stratospheric sulfuric acid particles larger than 120 nanometers contained aluminum and other metals traceable to spacecraft reentries, according to data presented at the American Astronomical Society meeting that year. The atmosphere now bears a permanent chemical marker of human activity in space.
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#space #science #TheBillionairesAreKillingUsAll

https://indiandefencereview.com/starlink-satellites-falling-nonstop-to-earth-risk/

Starlink Is Dropping From the Sky Again and Again. Scientists Warn Earth Is Already Feeling the Effects

For decades, space safety rules assumed satellite reentries would stay rare. By early 2026, with over 70,000 megaconstellation spacecraft planned, that assumption has collapsed.

Indian Defence Review
@Devorppa For those who don't recall the alarmed discussions of the 1980s that led to very successful treaties to protect the ozone layer: without that layer, most plants and land animals would be fried to death by UV radiation quite rapidly. It is not a very survivable scenario.

@bencourtice @Devorppa

Oui à cette époque les industriels et les états étaient encore responsable. Et avec l'effort des populations l'humanité a prouvé qu'elle pouvait réparer ces erreurs.

Hélas aujourd'hui les entreprises et leur CEO mégalomaniaques ne se préoccupent plus que d'une chose le profit et leurs rêves démoniaques...

Ils faut les arrêter avant que le "spaciocide"? des cette orbite ne se produise ...

#kessler #syndrom #musk #spaceX #starlink #spaciocide

@jipexu @Devorppa Je ne parle pas bien Français, mais je comprends assez bien, je crois. Aussi (en Anglais):
CFCs were a relatively minor component of industrial systems, with ready alternatives. Fossil fuels are (or were) the motor of just about everything- they have much more institutional power.

But you're also right about the megalomaniac CEOs and their demonic dreams. So many years of capitalist, neoliberal triumphalism, and now they are so drunk on power they no longer even care about science.

@bencourtice @Devorppa hey he's working on a retort to "yknow the earth is pretty great & inhabitable for 10s of thousands of years if not more so really no immediate need to live on Mars".
"See? Unlivable" he'll say after he's done with it.
Alternatively-
"Well if we don't do it the chinese & russians will".
Is there some massive wallpaper with telescopes the entire sky project from either of those countries happening that most people are just unaware of?

@Devorppa

Elon Musk is proof that time travel and Terminators don't exist in the future.

@Devorppa the world needs to see that "move fast and break things" and "seize markets first" VC mentalities will be the end of us.

We need to stop glorifying Silicon Valley and treat them like the global terrorists they are.

@deedo @Devorppa I feel like the world does see this, at least in pockets, but the rest simply won't try to stop them. Fearing repercussions from telling the people who need hear "no" the most because they hold too much control and power. It's the cowardice of those who could stop it but didn't that'll destroy the earth.
@Devorppa That sounds extremely bad. By then all life on earth might be killed by an extremely high dose of UV that otherwise would have been stopped by the ozone layer.
@Devorppa I knew Starlink was bad via Sam Lawler’s work - https://uregina.ca/~slb861/press.html - but this is real dark stuff
Sam Lawler

@martintheg

I do follow Dr Sam Lawler’s posts (@sundogplanets) - and I don’t put myself in the same category as actual scientists.

This issue (the chemical pollution of our atmosphere) has a real resonance with me, having lived through the Montreal Agreement (CFC Ban) and seeing the wonton destruction of the planet by a bunch of very rich utter bastards over my lifetime (climate change).

A lot of people are very worried about climate change, but those people would be even more worried if they knew what was happening to the upper atmosphere.

@Devorppa @sundogplanets A lot - a lot - of people don’t know how bad it has become nor how good it could have been with even a teenth of regulation applied to polluters and general business.

@Devorppa How to make Earth into Mars - Speedrun.

Edit: Was this what Musk meant by "going to Mars"?

@Devorppa To be fair, if you were killed in a stabbing we don't say the knife killed you, we say person X killed you.

If a piano falls out of a top story window and kills you, we don't say the piano killed you, we say the person in apartment X killed you.

So, if you're killed by falling space junk we shouldn't say a Starlink satellite killed you, we should say Musk killed you.

Killing someone through negligence in law is manslaughter. The law never blames the tool, it always blame the person.

@Devorppa In my opinion, owners should be required to take out insurance for each individual satellite, which covers disposal and damages.