@Em0nM4stodon LOL @ no AI pollution, except for the big red box that clearly states that they use AI.

@Mojeek

@cliffwade @Em0nM4stodon @Mojeek This feature is opt-in though, unlike most search engines. As a matter of fact, they have a more hesitant approach to this than other search engines:
1. https://blog.mojeek.com/2025/09/mojeek-is-not-an-answer-engine.html
2. https://blog.mojeek.com/2024/04/mojeek-search-summary.html
3. https://blog.mojeek.com/2023/05/generative-ai-threatens-diversity-and-hyperlinks.html

Honestly and out of curiosity, do you know of some privacy search engines with no LLM integration?

@fonos I don't think it's opt-in actually. I saw the post, went to their site which I had never been to, search for something and the AI stuff was there, front and center.

Not sure why people feel it's ok to defend these things in any way. But the OP claimed that Mojeek uses no AI in any way, and that was proven to be false. Opt-in, opt-out, whatever. The claim is false.

@Em0nM4stodon @Mojeek

@cliffwade @fonos @Em0nM4stodon @Mojeek lol enjoy your internet points? you skipped the point of OP (no forced regionalized search) and hyper focused on an ancillary comment and then did a bad faith interpretation of it. 👏 you are indeed winning points.

what's the goal here? are you just trying to shit on someone online? are you trying to raise awareness of something they may have over looked in terms of AI usage? do you think this rhetorical approach is gonna make people listen to you on the topic you clearly care about? Sounds like you caught a block instead?

I think one might deploy "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar" here as a suggestion for how to approach conversations where you think someone might have made an error you'd like to double check on or attempt to correct. Especially if you want to have a dialogue. As opposed to just snark.

Unless you just wanted to shit on strangers. in which case, congrats again

@dan_ballard I've made it clear that it was about not spreading false information and misleading people.

Sorry if you missed that all three times I mentioned it.

I feel you did a much better job of shitting on someone than anyone else here. Maybe congrats are in order for you for "catching a block" as you put it.

@fonos @Em0nM4stodon @Mojeek

@cliffwade @fonos @Em0nM4stodon @Mojeek friend, it's not about spreading false facts. you are correct, mojeek has AI features. OP's post was about finding a search engine with out force regionliztion. they also mentioned it wasn't shoving AI in their face, like google does with near full page ai summary by default.

Yes, mojeek HAS ai, but from my quick tests, it wasn't showing for me by default, or there's a side pane where I suspect if i click the "summarize these results" button I'd get AI, but it's much less dramatic than google's use.

So when you show up saying "mojeek uses AI" you aren't wrong, but that wasn't the point of the post. "no ai polution" doesn't have to be read as "100% garunteed no ai anywhere" it more likely reads as "no ai shoved down my throat". I think the summary box you have likely was opted into by at least once clicking the "summarise these results" button.

the point it, it was a more subjective ancillary claim and you came in taking huge umbridge with it.

Why? OP also said "it feels like I found back the 2010s web" and like, I could nit pick that if I really wanted to rules lawer the shit out of everything everyone said, trying to like, read the HTML and JS of the page for more modern uses. But that's not the point, it was about a feeling.

@cliffwade @fonos @Em0nM4stodon @Mojeek And again, what is your goal here? Charging into stranger's mentions with sarcasm isn't usually the way to get folks on your side even if you are stating facts. Do you want to raise awareness of an issue important to you? or just dunk on strangers?

if the first, than I'd just being less sarcastic in opening comment? this isn't a contest, there aren't points. it's not a competition. and coming in that hot just takes the tempurature up. I then even trying to respond came in hotter than I'd have liked in response 😅