Some #FreeSoftware devs are unironically the BIGGEST advocates for #GitHub; it's so bad they have mutated into #Microsoft's unofficial #marketing department.

Most pro-GitHub advocacy that I've been exposed to in my life does not come from #Microsoft marketing, but from fellow free software devs.

Bizarre.

#GiveUpGitHub

@Wuzzy So what is the proposed alternative(s)?

@OndrejZizka

See https://giveupgithub.org - scroll down to "Resources to Give Up GitHub".

See also https://forgefed.org for the forge federation project.

Add add a thumbsup or upvote and/or comment at
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/discussions/27765 to try to wean #Mastodon development away from Microsoft.

@Wuzzy

Give Up GitHub - Software Freedom Conservancy

The Software Freedom Conservancy provides a non-profit home and services to Free, Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS) projects.

@OndrejZizka @Wuzzy
Start by defining your requirements.

Source Control?
Cloud?
800 pound gorilla?
Preventing non-members from reporting bugs?

You can always define your requirements such that Microsoft is the only option.

@leeloo Yep, that's the thing. The B2B aspect of things is what makes the difference when businesses decide what to pay for... And at the same time, the B2B features often cost a significant effort to be added.

Perhaps these projects could make use of a new Red Hat to emerge and boost them. Or #EU to fund them and get lucky not to loose the drive.

@OndrejZizka
It doesn't sound like the subject of open source projects is the one you're interested in.

@OndrejZizka
#Codeberg.

I have nothing but praise for this site. Great platform, no bullshit, strongly pro-FreeSoftware with no "escape hatch", and it just works. And well-moderated, too, bad actors (issue spam, etc.) are banned at lightspeed.

Basically all of my code is there for many years now and my experience so far was only positive.

@Boud also posted other possible websites.

If you have time, money AND willpower, self-hosting is also an option.

@Wuzzy Okay Looks nice. You got me hooked. https://codeberg.org/OndrejZizka/kbake
kbake

Static site generator - MarkDown, Asciidoc, Texy! -> Freemarker, Jade/Pug, Thymeleaf, Pebble, Groovy... JBake revival

Codeberg.org
@Wuzzy gitHub was a decent option before Microsoft acquired it. I'm not sure that all of those pushing it realize that they're promoting the Evil Empire.

@wpeckham @Wuzzy
Decent for whom?

For example, I seen to recall that Github didn't allow bug reports from non-members long before they were bought out, it's just that the now the membership card says "Microsoft".

@leeloo @wpeckham To be fair, many bugtrackers (FOSS or not) don't allow fully anonymous bug reports and require you to register an account, often to fight off spam.

This is reasonable as long registering an account is not a big hurdle.

The real issue is that GitHub as a whole is proprietary and already was proprietary long before MS came in.

@Wuzzy @wpeckham
Anything that requires me to dig out my password manager is too big a hurdle.

Meanwhile, projects like the Linux kernel manage just fine to take bug reports simply by sending an email. And use spam pull requests as their reason for not using Github.