@lzg

beyond right and wrong, self-interest alone justifies fighting #nazis

people need to understand what #fascism is

it doesn't create anything

it only consumes

it constantly makes new enemies because if it stops consuming, it dies

fascism must always be on the move like a shark or it perishes

so new outgroups to persecute are contrived and eventually you will be in one of them

simple self-preservation:

you must stop fascism now before it gets to you

"doesn't affect me"

oh it will

@benroyce @lzg that's the key feature of fascism that people must know; it always needs 'others' to vilify and that can include you.

@alanthecampbell @lzg

any student of history sees the pattern of how #fascism operates

what is happening in the #usa now is simple #ignorance of the nature of the new #nazis. we have collectively forgotten

it's #MAGA who support it but will also become its victims

and it's entitled complacent morons who don't #vote

the generation that saw #wwii understands, but they are dying off. in their place are legions of idiots who don't understand what the big deal is

they will learn the hard way

@benroyce voting alone will not solve the problem, it will merely reset the clock.
there needs to be a more profound shift away from a model that promotes the tendencies that lead to fascism as good, from the myth of the rugged individual, to neoliberalism.

@alanthecampbell @lzg

@thegarbagebird @alanthecampbell @lzg

oh absolutely

no one thinks you vote, then unicorns and rainbows appear and everyone lives happily ever after

it's just that voting is one of those things you have to do, in a whole toolset of actions, in a much larger struggle

meanwhile, not voting simply because it isn't unicorns and rainbows magic bullet solution is stupid. no one serious thinks it is. it's simply someone's own cognitive failure to not vote based on this false assertion

@benroyce @thegarbagebird @alanthecampbell One votes for the same reason one extends a middle finger. It is a rude gesture towards the losing party.

Would you drive past the Nestlé factory without throwing up the impudent finger? Would you allow a cybertruck to drive past without a monodigit salute? Would you let Trump appear on your television without presenting the central phalanges? No. This is why we vote for the least shitty of 2 turdic candidates. Because fuck that other 1.

@log @thegarbagebird @alanthecampbell @lzg

you always vote, even if just sabotage/ vandalism

nobody thinks voting is some romantic notion of perfection, except complete fucking morons

@benroyce @log @thegarbagebird @[email protected] @lzg

Holding your nose to vote for the least of two "turds" seems to undermine your argument. How do I vote to put better candidates on the ballot in the first place? It really does seem that we're scraping the bottom of the barrel now, but I've been around long enough to know that they can always get worse.

@japipes @benroyce @log @thegarbagebird @lzg

How do I vote to put better candidates on the ballot in the first place?

The primaries. Disquietingly few people still, after everything that has happened, actually show up to vote in the primaries, still.

@mark @japipes @benroyce @log @thegarbagebird @lzg

They do keep changing dates in many states, and I suspect that's a reason why

Edit: clarifying to say that's why the dates change, to drive down turnout

@draNgNon @japipes @benroyce @log @thegarbagebird @lzg I can't speak for every state, but in my own it's a very specific formula (4th Tuesday April for Presidential election years, 3rd Tuesday in May in all other years).

The General Assembly can move it, but I wouldn't call "twice in the past 20 years" "they keep changing it."

@mark there is some weird jockeying for earlier primaries with some states, and they change every 4 year cycle.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/democrats-big-fight-state-goes-first-2024-presidential-primary-rcna57602

you can reply saying 'well that's not intended to drive down turnout' but well it's a contributor IMO. I recollect a similar big fight in 2020, and 2016.

anyhow I am not that engaged with this thread, just answering the notification. sorry if someone else already said this.

@japipes
@benroyce @log @thegarbagebird @lzg

Democrats’ next big fight: Which state goes first in the 2024 presidential primary

With the midterm elections barely in the rearview mirror, the competition is heating up among states trying to move up in the presidential primary lineup.

NBC News