You šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§ folks can be mad about how we pronounce ā€œhoverā€, but at least we don’t absolutely butcher ā€œrouterā€.

Seriously, how in the hell did you get ā€œrooterā€ from ā€œrouterā€ā€½

@caseyliss And yet you put periods and commas outside quotation marks. Next you’ll be putting an ā€œsā€ on the end of ā€œmath.ā€
@drdrang @caseyliss Casey was telling me only this week that he was broadly in favour of metric units.
@jamesthomson @caseyliss That’s the saddest thing I’ve ever heard.
@drdrang @caseyliss I think it means we're finally getting through to him.
@jamesthomson Imperial units are moronic. Except Fahrenheit which is unimpeachably the better unit for ambient air temps.
@jamesthomson cc @drdrang who I meant to copy
@caseyliss @jamesthomson Don’t worry, I saw it. You might think otherwise if you were forced to measure stress in pascals.
@drdrang @jamesthomson No bullshit, I’m gobsmacked to hear you of all people defending imperial units. 😱
@caseyliss @jamesthomson Every system of measurement is fine. The great advantage of SI—that everything is scaled by powers of ten—is less advantageous when we all have computers in our pockets, but I have nothing against it. Except that pascals are were poorly defined—a newton per square meter?
@drdrang @caseyliss @jamesthomson What would you want Pa = Joules / m^3? šŸ¤“
@drdrang @caseyliss @jamesthomson after an aborted career in home building I saw a set of prints where all dimensions were specified in mm and I’ve been insanely jealous ever since. Imperial units really are terrible for carpenters.
@joeld @drdrang @caseyliss @jamesthomson Not really. 12 has more factors, so it’s more easily divisible into consistent non-fractional units at that scale. In construction work it’s often more necessary to be *consistent* than to be exact. Traditional Japanese carpentry units are still used even though most of everything else went metric in the Meiji Era. *Sun* (equivalent of a foot) are decimal, but grouped into units of 3 or 6 for most uses. Makes dividing by half or thirds much easier.
@drdrang @caseyliss @jamesthomson At least we aren’t constantly doing unit conversions between Smoots and football fields.
@jdechko @drdrang @caseyliss @jamesthomson Just gonna leave this here <homerbush.gif>
@wklj Lol. I saw that in the trending section and thought of that as well.

@caseyliss @jamesthomson @drdrang
Firstly, Casey is the only successful person in making me appreciate Fahrenheit. ā€œAligns to body temperatureā€. I was starting to be converted in the summer with works aircon.

However. UK winters hover around zero degrees C. Believe me. Having no mental agility required to know if the local hill is ice slippy for death (yes exaggerated, but this is emotional), or a bit wet is QUITE THE DIFFERENCE SIR!

So yea. Celsius. šŸ‘šŸ»

@caseyliss @jamesthomson 30 is hot
20 is nice
10 is cold
0 is ice

@michaelgemar @jamesthomson Come talk to me when you don’t have to have half degrees on your thermostats

Also:

@caseyliss Picking100 on two scales and comparing them is a weird comparison.

In reality you’re looking at -30 to +40 for Celsius as ā€œvery coldā€ to ā€œvery hotā€ global temperatures. With the added benefit of knowing that anything below 0 is actually freezing. Which makes a difference for whether I need to scrape my car or not.

There’s nothing F makes better. I need to remember 32 is the freezing point? I need to argue about 42 versus 43? No benefit.

You learned F. So it seems normal.

@caseyliss @michaelgemar @jamesthomson Casey is right. I work in the building industry. Most thermostats that show C in hotels don’t do what they say cos most people actually want 73F (22.7C). 22C on the dial is actually 22.7. Cos 22 is too cold and 23 is too hot. People _think_ they want 22C.
I despise imperial slugs per pound foot or whatever, but Fahrenheit works better for people’s actual comfort.
@andrewwade THANK YOU
@caseyliss to be clear, I don’t want you to be right. Imperial is goddamn annoying in engineering. But F is proven to be more human (humane?) than C. Sigh.
I remember someone once saying ā€œif your thermostat is showing decimals, your units are dumbā€
That might have been you?
@andrewwade It was. And I stand by it.
@caseyliss @andrewwade I’ve set mine to 21 and 5/16ths in honour of our American friends ;)
@andrewwade @caseyliss @michaelgemar @jamesthomson that’s nonsense. My flat is at 19.5C and I’m fine. Between 19.5C and 22C it’s just a matter of getting used to it.

@caseyliss @jamesthomson Who uses half degrees? A celsius degree difference isn’t that much. 21, 22, still nice. 3, 4, still bloody cold. In fact, outside a physic class, I’ve only ever heard fractional degrees used with Fahrenheit. ā€˜My temperature is ninety-eight point four,’ Lou Reed sings on ā€˜Average Guy’, just as an example.

(And my comma/quote placement there is deliberate and correct. šŸ˜€)

@caseyliss @jamesthomson the world will never know peace until we can admit that both units of measurement get it wrong.

Fahrenheit is correct at the upper levels. 100 Fahrenheit is correct.

Freezing though? What the hell kind of number is 32 for freezing?!

0 Celsius is correct.

The perfect temperature unit would go from 0 degrees Celsius to 100 degrees Fahrenheit.

@TheEjj @caseyliss @jamesthomson freezing is for water. But we’re humans:

100°F is fucking hot.
0°F is fucking cold.
0°C is like, eh, I should probably think about wearing a jacket…

@mwyman @caseyliss @jamesthomson but it’s practical both from a comfort perspective and an environmental perspective to know when water will freeze.

Whereas knowing when it will boil is silly.

@caseyliss @jamesthomson the Trump of measurements.

Sorry not sorry.

@jamesthomson @drdrang @caseyliss Everyone knows that the metric system is objectively better. It’s just that people don’t like change. ā€œThe metric system is the tool of the devil. My car gets forty rods to the hogshead, and that’s the way I likes itā€

@jamesthomson @drdrang @caseyliss And to think, Americans used to lecture British people on the benefits of decimal systems…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntW9NDRHXnc&feature=youtu.be

Tom Lehrer Decimal The Frost Report

YouTube