Terminal TiltJan 15

Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

Reject this future.  

Keep your hardware local.

Run #Linux.  

Own your data.

The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

#NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud — hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

Amazon's Jeff Bezos once revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options. Will DRAM prices make it come true?

Windows Central
Show threadmeek cynicsJan 15

You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

@terminaltilt, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

Run Linux. 

Run  or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. 

Show threadIron BugJan 15
@cnx @terminaltilt I use Linux. and I have never ever used any SaaS.
and yes, it is Linux with only a very few GNU untils. because I can build Linux-based system without gnu utils at all. this is not important and does not have any special meaning,
really, I don't like it where GNU goes nowadays and prefer to avoid it, except, maybe GCC wich is not ruined yet (but they try!).
Show threadmeek cynicsJan 16

@iron_bug, I use Linux. and I have never ever used any SaaSS is a very different statement from what @terminaltilt suggested, i.e. use Linux and you'll be free from SaaSS, consider the majority of Linux systems force and trick its users to only know of SaaSS as the sole way to do things.

FWIW I use Linux kernel too and I don't use SaaSS, but the kernel could be swapped out for a BSD one and there'd be literally no difference to the way I do computing, hence Linux is hardly the representative for software freedom. The people behind GNU or OpenBSD or whatever free userspace, no matter how shit thou perceive them, at least don't try to fuck over people like what's on the front page of linuxfoundation.org.

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Show threadIron BugJan 16
@cnx @terminaltilt >the majority of Linux systems force and trick its users to only know of SaaSS as the sole way to do things.
this is blatant lies. I'm not tolerant to lies.
there's no any SaaS that Linux distributies would mpose to users. I use Linux for ages, more than 25 years, and there's nothing that is imposed to users at all. user can choose any distributive he likes, any architecture and pick whatever packages he needs. or build his own distributive, like I do. total freedom of choice. I don't understand these strange, unproven and senseless accusations of Linux in some imaginary "SaaS dependencies".
Show threadmeek cynicsJan 16
@iron_bug, thou'rt living in a bubble if thou thinkest Google makes any of the mentioned activity easy (or even possible depending on the OEM). This is not the year 2000, distributions other than  Google/Linux are outliers, not the majority. Cc: @terminaltilt
Show threadIron Bug
@cnx @terminaltilt now you switched to Google? tell me what Google and their services have to do wtih Linux? Linux does NOT offer any Google SaaS or whetever to their users. Linux is an operating system. it works with hardware, that's all. the rest is user level software and there're tens of major and minor distributions based on Linux with very different sets of packages and settings, from basic end user ready-to-go installations to higjly customizeable systems like Slackware or Gentoo, and they all are very different. so your claims about "Linux imposing something to users" are just senseless and groundless.

and I'm not "living in a bubble", I'm a professional developer and work with Linux for ages. I worked with Linux systems from tiny embedded devices to gross high-load servers with hundreds of CPU and terabytes of traffic. and I won't let you spread lies about it.
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Show threadmeek cynicsJan 16

@iron_bug, our niche experience with GNU/Linux is not representative of the majority of Google/Linux systems deployed in the wild on end-user devices.

As an analogy, @terminaltilt said drink soda and you can avoid sugar, I commented most soda has sugar and thou replied with actually my sugar-free soda doesn't have sugar. Well yea, no shit, so doesn't mine, and that was my point, soda is a shit indicator that the drink doesn't contain sugar. What part of the reality that 99% of end-user systems using the Linux kernel are some variant of Android Google/Linux dostn't thou refuse to understand?

Show threadIron BugJan 16
@cnx @terminaltilt nope, you said "my personal cup of shit contains sugar" and that means "the most cups contain sugar". something like this. but I have experience with many Linux distros and builds and there's no SaaS anywhere. I can't even imagine where SaaS could be applied to Linux, because those are usually proprietary bullshit and Linux software is free in most cases, and has nothing to do with corps. moreover, you wont be able to install proprietary crap on most distributions.
Show threadmeek cynicsJan 16
@iron_bug, out of 3.3 billion end-user devices running Linux, only about 33 million of them uses free-ish distros thou'rt talking about. Please read what I wrote a wee more carefully because it seems I'm repeating meself here. Cc: @terminaltilt
Show threadIron BugJan 16
@cnx @terminaltilt you counted this yourself? I haven't such statistics from any serious and reliable sources.
Linux is about servers and embedded hardware, first of all. and that devices much more in number than end-user gadgets.
and once again: Linux is an operating system. the kernel. it does not deal with any SaaS or whatever. it provides HAL for user level software. and user level software may be whatever, but this is not "Linux".
Show threadmeek cynicsJan 27

you counted this yourself? I haven't such statistics from any serious and reliable sources.

@iron_bug, let's take the Google I/O 2021 for 3 billion end-user devices running Google/Linux and 1361 million desktop/laptop computers from Gartner times 2.2% GNU-like/Linux market share from Statcounter.

Linux is about servers and embedded hardware, first of all. and that devices much more in number than end-user gadgets.

The original post by @terminaltilt was about end-user devices, and so was my comment.

Linux is an operating system. the kernel. it does not deal with any SaaS or whatever. it provides HAL for user level software. and user level may be whatever, but this is not "Linux".

Agreed, but that's not relevant to my point. To advocate for people to plainly run Linux doesn't involve any recommendation for the userspace, thus most people can follow the advice by the most obvious way of using a Google/Linux device and continue to rent computing power from SaaSS. It would have been a useful suggestion if it was something along the line of run free software instead of proprietary spyware or subscribe to services.

There are over 3 billion active Android devices

Google announced that there are over 3 billion active Android devices at Google I/O, its annual developer conference.

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Show threadIron BugJan 27
@cnx @terminaltilt but this all is not a Linux fault and has nothing to do with Linux, and you blamed Linux by some unknown reason. Linux is a kernel. they don't care what userspace BS some idiots may use.