7. But even beyond the political conversation, you can't compare 2012 energy policy to 2025 without understanding the massive shift in US fossil energy production & net imports over that period. Look at the "net imports" line on this chart.
8. In 2012, the US was a net importer of oil and domestic production, after decades of decline was ticking up thanks to fracking. Today, the US is a net exporter. Couple that with concerns about middle east politics in 2012 and you have a VERY different set of issues for US energy consumers.
9. As a net importer, every incremental unit of domestic production reduced our exposure to foreign oil & associated price volatility. As a net exporter, every incremental unit gets shipped overseas.
10. In other words, in 2012 new production benefited domestic producers AND consumers. But today, new production only benefits producers. That's a fundamentally different policy and political environment. And note also that domestic consumption is basically flat for the last 20 yrs.
11. That's a good thing! We're just as warm, just as able to travel as we were 20 years ago, and rising vehicle efficiency, EV deployment, etc. is giving consumers more useful energy with less oil expense. That's good for consumers, even if it hurts producers.
12. And if we want to talk about the politics, here's some easy math: there are a lot more voters who consume energy than there are who produce energy. If you're confused on that point, you might be a crappy pundit...
13. And this isn't just true of oil. We've also moved from a net importer to a net exporter of natural gas since 2012. (Also because fracking.) Which again means that to take Yglesias' advice in 2025 is to prioritize energy producers over energy consumers.
14. The wealth transfer from natural gas is perhaps even more direct since gas - unlike oil - isn't quite a global commodity; the costs to liquefy and transport gas, per MMBtu are a lot higher than oil, which creates much higher local price disparities.
15. As such, when US producers can swap European/Asian markets for the US markets and make a higher margin, even after accounting for shipping costs it puts significant upward pressure on previously land-locked domestic prices.
16. This is the reverse of getting off middle eastern oil in 2012. Now, instead of decoupling from global volatility we are absorbing it. That gets quantified whenever a major US LNG export facility has an outage & domestic NG prices fall. Who ya rootin' for, Matt? https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=53079#:~:text=A%20fire%20at%20Freeport%20LNG's,U.S.%20natural%20gas%20demand%20outlook.
U.S. natural gas supply and demand balance shifts amid outage at Freeport LNG - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Energy Information Administration - EIA - Official Energy Statistics from the U.S. Government

17. It's worth reading the entirety of what DOE had to say about the impact of that 2022 outage on domestic prices. These are massive price swings - and therefore massive wealth transfers from US consumers to US producers!
18. Because natural gas is used for so much of US power generation, increasing gas exports = higher gas prices = higher electricity. One climate negative impact of that is that after years of decline, we now are seeing an uptick in domestic power generation from coal.
19. This isn't because coal is cheap, or because we're building more coal plants. It's because when the price of gas goes up gas fired power plants are a little less competitive against other asset classes and the competition (in this case, coal) picked up the slack.
20. So this goes back to point 10. When we are a net exporter, decisions to produce more help producers and hurt consumers. And in this case, are ALSO bad for the climate. It's lose / lose all around.
21. And before team Yglesias responds by saying "yeah, but it's bad politics to run on climate and energy"... I'd point out that I've won 4 elections in a very purple district running on climate and energy. Pro-tip: leadership is possible! You don't have to be stupid to win!
22. Speaking of climate. Let's now pick apart this word salad of stupidity. Specifically the assertion that US oil is "cleaner" than other countries and therefore it is environmentally virtuous for us to drill baby drill.
23. Here's the report he links to in order to prove his point, that compares the carbon intensity of various global oil production regions. https://www.energyindepth.org/report-u-s-beats-competitors-with-low-carbon-intensity-oil/
Report: U.S. Beats Competitors with Low Carbon Intensity Oil

The United States is a global leader in minimizing greenhouse gas emissions from offshore production, according to a recent  from the National Ocean Industries Association (NOIA). The report, commissioned by NOIA and conducted by global advisory firm ICF, is a comprehensive analysis of the emissions...

24. Here's the chart. I don't know if he looked at it, and I certainly don't think he thought about it but I'd encourage you to as it refutes much of that word salad paragraph.
25. First, note who is the cleanest: Saudi Arabia. So when he says that we should "work with other low-intensity producers", he is essentially saying that we should maximize production in Saudi before bringing on US production. How does that help win elections in TX and OH?
26. Interestingly, since the Saudis gave Kushner his PE fund and Trump his LIV tournament he's been quiet as they've kept the oil price under $70 which in turn has suppressed US rig counts. So maybe Trump is taking Yglesias' advice? How's that polling? https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/total-rigs
27. Back to the chart. Look at how much dirtier Canadian oil is than US oil. (Because tar sands are very energy intensive to extract). You know who pushed to stop imports of dirty Canadian oil into the US? Obama! Google "keystone XL pipeline" if you've forgotten that history.
28. Recall that the oil industry (and the GOP) demonized Obama for blocking Keystone not because they were looking out for US producers but because they had spare refining capacity and wanted to make money exporting the resulting finished products. So again, this is about producers v consumers.
29. Now look at the US bars on that chart. Yes, bars plural. Because US production is not monolithic. Conventional oil production (offshore gulf, southwest) uses relatively little energy to lift the oil to the surface and as a result is much cleaner than "other US" (aka fracking).
30. Which means that if you're making the argument that US oil production is cleaner, you have to be honest about where the marginal production is happening. And in OH, PA and those other swing states he describes, it ain't from conventional drilling.
31. On natural gas, his arguments are just as bad. Yes, it is true that at the burner tip a unit of natural gas emits less CO2 than a unit of coal. And if you have a coal mine and a gas well in your back yard, both of which are hooked up to your furnace that is a relevant comparison.
32. That's of course not the norm. And because methane is such a potent greenhouse gas (>80x as bad as CO2 for the first 20 years after release) even a minor leakage rate in the collection and distribution makes natural gas worse than coal from a global warming perspective.
33. That's even more true for exported natural gas which also has to be liquefied since the liquefaction process is so energy intensive. Roughly speaking, you need nearly 120 units of gas to make 100 units of LNG. So more CO2 and magnified impacts of upstream leaks.
34. And of course you also need to fuel the ship that carries the LNG to another country - which means that environmental impact of exported natural gas is primarily driven by methane leaks and liquefaction / distribution. The burner tip comparison is just a vapid industry talking point.
35. Source for that graph if you want to get into the details: https://www.research.howarthlab.org/publications/Howarth_LNG_assessment_preprint_in_press.pdf
36. Finally this. The mark of the fossil fuel shill who never loses the arrogance to walk into a room, say "the sun doesn't shine at night and its not always windy", drop the mic and leave, confident that no one else knows what they just discovered.
37. I will concede. Night is real. Some days I can't fly a kite. It is also true that sometimes coal trains are stuck, gas pipelines fail, warm weather derates thermal power plants and unplanned outages happen.
38. Every utility manager and operator knows this. NERC standards explicitly require that in any given utility control area you cannot have a coincident failure mode that affects more than 10% of your load. The scary scenario (night time blackouts!) doesn't happen and won't.
39. Moreover, wholesale power markets include variable time of use rates and in some cases capacity payments to pay a premium to sources that can ramp up on a moments notice. Here is a list of what PJM used last year (% is the likelihood that the given source would be there when called.)
40. So yes, we have a grid with lots of stuff. The most reliable backup in that PJM analysis was nuclear and load sited demand reduction. Diesel gen sets. Pumped hydro. Battery storage is a big deal and a bigger one as costs fall and longer durations are available. Gas peakers too.
41. Not shown here, but also a big deal is transmission to connect different parts of the system so that the wind in Iowa can power Chicago, or the sun in Florida, or the geothermal in Nevada, or the hydro in Oregon, etc.
42. Point is, markets and existing regulatory structures also know that no source is available 24/7/365 and manage the grid accordingly. They don't learn anything from Yglesias insight about nighttime and you didn't either.
43. If you're still reading at #43... thanks, I guess? But also this. :) Anyway, a final thought to wrap up. https://youtu.be/QbJelY1kZNU?si=h7B3Upg3Y2h9qfGQ
Shatner saying "Get a Life"!!

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44. I've spent my entire adult career in the energy industry. As a consultant, as a manufacturer, as a power plant developer/owner/operator and now as a legislator. There is something really optimistic about the moment we're in that pundits like Yglesias said was impossible 20 yrs ago.
45. Specifically, we've decoupled economic growth from fossil energy consumption. Coal demand has collapsed. Oil use is flat. Natural gas use is growing but < GDP, even as standards of living have gone up. That's happened because of higher efficiency and decarbonization.
46. We are, in a word, investing in energy productivity, getting more economic value out of less input. That is great news, for the same reason that higher returns on capital are good or increases in labor productivity good. Make more useful stuff with less input and we all get richer.
47. As Amory Lovins has said for years, no one wants a lump of coal, or a barrel of oil. All we want is a hot shower and a cold beer. And if we can get that heat and light and chilling without paying for (or burning) fuel, we're all happier... with one notable exception.
48. That exception of course is the fossil fuel producer. They are hostile to energy productivity for the same reason John Henry didn't like the steam shovel. They can't compete with it. Wins for consumers come at their expense. Wins for the climate come at their expense.
49. The game isn't over by far. But make no mistake: we are winning. That's something to be proud of. It's something to accelerate. It's nothing to take for granted. And it's certainly no time to take Yglesias' advice and fumble the ball so the other team won't feel so sad. /fin
@SeanCasten really good to hear this, itโ€™s sometimes hard to get a handle on what the bigger picture is. Just got to keep working on it.
@SeanCasten Very nice takedown of this uneducated fool. Bravo.

@SeanCasten

Matt Yglesias eat doo-doo

@SeanCasten So we've got to the point where renewables are powering GDP growth without increasing fossil fuel consumption. As renewables get cheaper to deploy and are deployed at ever increasing rates, when do we start reducing our fossil fuel consumption and CO2 production?
@jbond @SeanCasten I guess part of the equation relating to deployment of renewables and reduction in CO2 emissions will be the rate of data-center development. I mean, if data-centers increase power demand faster than renewables are deployed, CO2 emissions could RISE.

@SeanCasten

I'm happy that "finally" the future many of us hoped for is arriving.

But I somewhat disagree with your characterisation of fossil fuel producers here โ€” it's not that they *can't* compete, it's that they *chose* not toโ€ฆ

They had every opportunity *and more* that others had to reinvent themselves by investing in and developing renewables. Instead of innovating, they *chose* the easier path of suppressing competitors to maintain their profits.

Shame on them.

@mmalc
Correct, just look at the UAE, E. g., how you diversify from oil production.

@SeanCasten

@mmalc @HistoPol @SeanCasten not just chose, there's documented examples of them actively hostile to the required change. Just see COP for some of the latest.

@craignicol

It is not only "examples." it is an evidence of a kuge dysfunction of the #US judicial system that the likes of #ExonMobile have not been nationalized yet.

#BigOilKnew and have even been spreading false propaga about #ClimateChange for decades!
I'm therefore demanding to make them pay for the cumulative damages they've been causing to our #biosphere and humanity.

Many deeds are publicly documented by the US Congress, e. g:

https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110680669265721701

@mmalc @SeanCasten

@HistoPol @mmalc @SeanCasten I'm honestly surprised they've not been sued multiple times over by other USA companies about the impact of climate change. Whether ski resorts, anyone affected by drought or flooding or hurricanes.

They've got some powerful protection.

@HistoPol @mmalc @SeanCasten the only people more protected by the state than polluters are paedophiles

@craignicol

That's *exactly* my point:
In a judicial system in which a single person can geht damages for injuries worth millions of๐Ÿ’ฒ, how is this possible?

#ClimateChange can be proven beyond reasonable doubt. Why is #BigOil not being sued on a massive scale?

@mmalc @SeanCasten

@HistoPol

For the same reasons Remington or Winchester can't be sued for gun deaths, nor Ford for car deaths.

You could try suing your neighbour next time they fly ?

@craignicol @mmalc @SeanCasten

@largess

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At first glance, it might look like the same, but it is not.
For decades, #BigOilNew, but invested millions of dollars to deceive the public about the extremely adverse effect of their product.

https://social.anoxinon.de/@jgreis/115474995737234490

Also, they habe actively been bribing politicians, researches, and NPOs.

https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110680692138697601

It leads to the extinction of thousands of species.

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@craignicol @mmalc @SeanCasten

Jรถrg Greis (@jgreis@social.anoxinon.de)

"Unlike Chinaโ€™s state-run coal companies, which never attacked climate science, in the US, Big Oil began implementing a massive scheme to poison the public with climate denial." "Every time you hear a piece of good news about the explosive growth of clean energy, itโ€™s worth remembering that the benchmark in question likely could have been met in 2005, rather than 2025, if not for Big Oilโ€™s climate deception." #climatechange #BigOilKnew #FossilLobby #klimawandel https://newrepublic.com/article/202079/china-america-clean-energy-revolution-big-oil

social.anoxinon.de - Mastodon

@largess

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...If you think of the cases won in the area of product safety, lying for decades about the extreme adverse effects of your product is not the same.

I'd rather compare it to a producer selling nuclear poweplants but failing to account for the radiation killing workers in the plant for lack of sufficient radiation protection.

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@craignicol @mmalc @SeanCasten

@largess

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...If you think of the cases won in the area of product safety, lying for decades about the extreme adverse effects of your product is not the same.

I'd rather compare it to a producer selling nuclear poweplants but failing to account for the radiation killing workers in the plant for lack of sufficient radiation protection.

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@craignicol @mmalc @SeanCasten

@HistoPol @largess @mmalc @SeanCasten I think one of the few comparable cases in terms of misrepresentation of the science and lobbying capture of lawmakers would be the tobacco industry, and there's 70 years of cases against them with tobacco still widely available.

@craignicol

#BigOilKnew

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That is an excellent example.

I'm thinking of Anderson, et al. v. Pacific Gas & Electric:  after finding widespread unexplained illness in the town of Hinkley, California. The now famous legal clerk, #ErinBrockovich, convinced the town and the lawfirm, Masry & Vititoe, to sue #PG&E for damages caused by the contamination of the town's drinking water with chromium.

"The case was settled...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich

@largess @mmalc @SeanCasten

Erin Brockovich - Wikipedia

@craignicol

#BigOilKnew

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...in 1996 for $333 million ($668 million in 2024 [money]), the largest settlement ever paid in a direct-action lawsuit in #UnitedStates history to that date."

Also, the case has been made world famous by #JuliaRoberts:

https://m.imdb.com/de/title/tt0195685/?reasonForLanguagePrompt=browser_header_mismatch

Also on #Wiki, there were other prominent cases that she won or settled nicely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich

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@largess @mmalc @SeanCasten

Erin Brockovich (2000) โญ 7.5 | Biografie, Drama

2h 11m | 6

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@HistoPol @mmalc @SeanCasten I think they might be getting worried about it though as they are asking for protection from court cases. I would imagine their balance sheet for lawyers and insurance is increasing.

It would be poetic if legal fees are what bankrupts them, but I'm not holding my breath.