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Dec 20 at 11:17amWeb
Show threadcvengDec 20
@nixCraft Do all those Firefox alternatives contribute to Gecko (or Ladybird)?
If not, switching from Firefox will just further help Google, no?
Show threadChrisDec 20
@nixCraft What success looks like by 2028
- not having spent heaps of money, energy and water on the "AI" bubble
Show threadInsightNest OfficialDec 20
@nixCraft what are alternatives then besides chromium/gecko?
Show threadnawanDec 20
@insightnest @nixCraft WebKit
Show threadCameron BoschDec 20
@nawanp @insightnest @nixCraft That being said, that isn't an option on Windows afaik.
Show threadnawanDec 21

@cameron_bosch @insightnest @nixCraft Yes, but no longer.

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Show threadpoes 🇵🇸Dec 21

@nawanp @cameron_bosch @insightnest @nixCraft

nice one, but most of addons I have using daily is not supported by Orion.

Show threadDamirDec 20
@nixCraft I’m really curious what market analysis led to that strategy
Show thread1nine6threeDec 20
@nixCraft trusted AI …. well let’s say they will probably learn the hard way.
Show threadFizixChrisDec 20
@nixCraft 2028? That's optimistic.
Show threadRodrigo DiasDec 20
@nixCraft Mozilla pushing Open Source AI seems like the right move actually. Why the hate?
Show threadChrisDec 20
@rgo @nixCraft Because there is no such thing.
Are they going to re-train an LLM from scratch based only on material in the public domain or with explicit creator consent? And even if they manage to do that, it will not be "AI". It will just be one more LLM, only even worse than the rest because it is trained on a smaller amount of data.
Show threadCadenDec 20
@rgo @nixCraft because AI has a boatload of issues beyond being closed-source. I would say that doesn't even make the top 5
Show thread"Mutant Rob" Robert RothenbergDec 20

@tarix29 @rgo @nixCraft

We can start with it not actually being AI. It's a probabilistic word generator that doesn't have any kind of formal reasoning let alone a model about what words mean.

Show threadbhauglandDec 20
@nixCraft I moved to librewolf. I hate to support an organization that is just a bunch of salesmen
Show threadnulllDec 20
@bhaugland I always thought that librewolf just get the updates fron Firefox, changing few things. Without Firefox would Librewolf survive?
Show threadbhauglandDec 20

@nulll Good Question. I really don't know exactly how it works. I do know that librewolf is a fork from firefox so I presume that if firefox went away entirely that people would be able to continue to improve the librewolf fork as source for librewolf is available on Codeberg.

The fact that librewolf is on Codeberg is another advantage since Codeberg is Non-profit and away from Github and Microsofts influence.

Show threadmunnaDec 21
@bhaugland @nulll is librewolf support drm content?
Show threadbhauglandDec 21

@0xknight @nulll It does however you do need to enable it. librewolf does have a lot more opt-in features then other browsers.

It is just a checkbox in the settings.

Show threadnulllDec 21
@bhaugland @0xknight Yes, you're right. What worries me is the future of #FireFox. The path chosen by Mozilla is truly dark, truly sad. Its fate seems written, and I say this with sadness because I've always been a #FireFox user.
Show threadmunnaDec 21
@nulll @bhaugland me too very long time firefox user 😓
Show threadmunnaDec 21
@bhaugland @nulll last time it didn't worked maybe i will give another try.
Show threadbhauglandDec 21
@0xknight @nulll could depend on where you installed librewolf from. Mine is from the Manjaro package manager
Show threadbhauglandDec 20
@nixCraft Firefox or at least the gecko engine needs to be moved to a nonprofit organization. It is not safe in the hands of a corporation
Show threadMarcelo GarbarinoDec 20
@bhaugland @nixCraft That would be a great idea, at least for the Gecko engine. The Firefox brand name is so damaged now... what a pity.
Show threadStéphaneDec 20
By 2028, our users will be obsolete.
Show threadChrisDec 20
@nixCraft Strategic hypotheses
- users actually want to use this shit
- someone will actually want to spend money on this shit
- somehow we will make this shit profitable, even if nobody else has managed to (apart from shovel seller Nvidia)
Show threadgunstickDec 20

@nixCraft

9 statistics of how many users enable the AI feature.
10 decision when nobody seems tonuse AI

Show threadnulllDec 20
@nixCraft
If it's true that Mozilla also evaluated to ban/disable adblockers, then Mozilla is clearing killing itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIxcwRdS5n8
Show threadhrastDec 21
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