Thor A. HoplandDec 17

#Mozilla is no longer in the vanguard of the #openweb. What was once an organization dedicated to #decentralizing #web technology has now gone over to feeding #SaaS chains.

If it was about local and #selfhosted #AI, it'd be another thing - which was their original stance. But in their pursuit of funding they've abandoned the principles that made Mozilla great.

It just keeps getting worse - #Firefox to "evolve into a modern AI #browser" | GamingOnLinux
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/12/it-just-keeps-getting-worse-firefox-to-evolve-into-a-modern-ai-browser/

It just keeps getting worse - Firefox to "evolve into a modern AI browser "

Just like Google plan with Chrome, Mozilla aren't sitting still on expanding Firefox into something resembling a web browser but with more AI.

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Show threadThor A. HoplandDec 17

Maybe #Waterfox, #ZenBrowser, #TORBrowser, #PaleMoon, #IceCat & #LibreWolf should come together and form a new organization to fork and maintain a separate version #Gecko engine.

Perhaps even make a goal to transition from Gecko to the #Servo engine, creating a path for other Gecko based browsers to also follow suit.

There needs to be repercussions. There needs to be blowback. There needs to be culpability.

And no, everyone using Blink is not a good solution - at all.
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/no-ai-here-response-to-mozilla/

No AI* Here - A Response to Mozilla's Next Chapter - Waterfox Blog

Mozilla's pivot to AI first browsing raises fundamental questions about what a browser should be.

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@hopland Browser engine variety is always going to be a net positive for users. It prevents control of the browser ecosystem by singular groups with ulterior motives
Dec 17 at 11:43amWeb
Show threadThor A. HoplandDec 17

@OpenSauce I come from the days of developing for IE6. Preaching to the choir. That being said, we got some choices.

* blink (chrome, edge, Vivaldi, electron, etc)
* WebKit (spiritual successor to KHTML, kind of "neglected" by Apple to prevent WPA from harming their App Store ecosystem)
* gecko (firefox, zen, waterfox, etc)
* ladybird (brand new browser engine)
* servo (previous Mozilla project, aiming for embedded, written in Rust)

We've come a long way since Netscape, I'll tell you what