Random realization: MS Teams is the Lotus Notes of web meetings.
@jerry, oh dear. I have never had to use MS Teams. It I’m old enough to know the comparison.
@jerry Yes! My work still has it's Notes system around, and Teams is more and more resembling it

@jerry Dang, maybe.

But I built some useful internal tools with Lotus Notes back in the day. I have no use for Teams.

@jerry I believe it used to be WebEx…
@jerry "Chrome isn't ready until MS Teams doesn't work"
@jerry @mainframed767 the difference is lotus notes was incredibly clever in its day and solved some challenging network replication issues really well. Teams does nothing better than the alternatives
@sldrant @jerry @mainframed767 yeah, that is doing Lotus Notes dirty!

@sldrant and actually almost everything worse than the alternatives.

@jerry @mainframed767

@jerry thank god they have a browser version, because the client is a pile of bloated garbage.

@briankrebs @jerry but isn't that basically the case with all node/js/ts apps? It's all the same code right? The difference being the client is basically shipping chromium, whereas with the web version it doesn't need to

Either way everything is a massive bloated mess now

@jamesbooker @briankrebs @jerry

The desktop apps ship some native code, which used to make a big difference for video conferencing (before browsers improved that feature set).

I've used the native apps on Windows, macOS, Android, and iOS and it constantly amazes me how much worse the Windows one is than all of the others. The iOS and Android ones have mostly native UIs. The macOS one is mostly the same JavaScript but manages to use far less CPU than the Windows one.

@jerry as a former blue I remember the 8am pointy-elbowed scramble to grab the same hotdesk you had the day before, plug in and let R5 sync for twenty minutes before you could get anything done. good teims not insane at all.

@jerry I have never used lotus, but my company still has people complaining that we shifted off of it forever ago. Seriously, at least once a month.

No one I work with likes teams though.

@jerry

But Notes was great for the work I did, and with the right plugins it wasn't too hard to make useful tools for my computer phobic colleagues😀

@jerry NO! Lotus Notes for all its horribleness, WORKED!
@jerry Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. A very long time.

@jerry

Has Teams been used in any killbots?

@the_turtle

@aaron I have been laughing this pic for far too long today 😂
@jerry that is the most boring sentence i've read this year. incredible work
@jerry that’s a little mean to Lotus Notes.
@jerry I think I dodged lotus notes by 👌that much in my career so this goes over my head, but I can say the only thing worse than Teams is every other corporate messaging and collaboration platform I’ve ever had to use.
@jerry isn’t that a bit harsh to Lotus Notes?