@mason This has pretty much happened everytime I have tried install FreeBSD for the past two-ish years. Maybe it’s an Intel N100 issue. 🤷 It’s the only device I tried installing it on.

I mainly use RPM based systems for my most of my computing (Nobara for main pc and OpenSUSE for laptop) and Debian/Ubuntu for servers.
@jlw_the_jobber @mason my first several attempts at a workstation running FreeBSD ended with me just installing ghostbsd instead. I really enjoy it as a server is but MAN is it picky to spin up a graphical desktop.
@spaceraser @mason I have tried Ghost and Midnight, but both broke on me. The best BSD success I had was with NomadBSD but my install borked from moving from flashdrive to SSD.
@jlw_the_jobber @mason maybe you’re just allergic?

@spaceraser @jlw_the_jobber I've only ever used base FreeBSD and I've encountered some absolutely horrific, destructive errors over the years, and certainly desktop use is a challenge, even if it's as good as it's ever been. (There are still a wheelbarrow of issues I could bring up.) Honestly I used to use NetBSD as my desktop in the 90s and I had less pain.

Nowadays, maybe try OpenBSD? It won't get you ZFS and that's a showstopper for me, of course.

What's at the core of your wanting to really try FreeBSD? Maybe there are other ways to scratch the itch.

For me, the perfect OS was Debian before the systemd cult dominated the project. My most common desktop in the house today is Debian on ZFS with sysvinit. The six of us here use it as our primary workstations. We do have two FreeBSD desktops used regularly for various purposes, and it's getting better, but the regular bleeding over it is a challenge.

In the end, use something that gives you pleasure. Life's too short.

You noted that "the perfect OS was Debian before the systemd cult dominated the project".

#Devuan, a spoon of of #Debian that excludes systemd, is an option. I gather that you've set up Debian to operate without systemd, but Devuan does a more complete removal.

Devuan is faster than Debian even if Debian is set up to operate without systemd. As a bonus, Debian can be migrated to Devuan in-place without a fresh install.

Devuan offers another plus for developers of other distros as well:

I use my own Linux distro. However, my distro can't be booted native on hosted dedis [or some of them] because [some] #dedi boot loaders refuse to boot kernels that aren't on a predefined and fixed list.

The solution to that is to install Debian on a dedi, to migrate Debian to Devuan, and to run my distro in a chroot. [For this to work, some Devuan services may need to be disabled.] Presto, my distro is cloudy.

This should work for a number of non-standard distros. Debian itself can't be used for this purpose because systemd messes things up.

The latest stable release of Devuan, which was made last month, is Devuan 6 [Excalibur], based on Debian 13 [Trixie]. "Hold the lettuce and systemd, please."

https://www.devuan.org/
Welcome to devuan.org | Devuan GNU+Linux Free Operating System

Free GNU+Linux base OS. Devuan is a fork of Debian without systemd. Devuan provides a safe upgrade path from Debian, to ensure the right to Init Freedom and avoid entanglement.

Devuan GNU+Linux

@oldcoder
#Devuan has unfortunately accepted the XLibre fork.

So personally I'm looking for a replacement, but don't have high hopes.

@mason @jlw_the_jobber @spaceraser

@dzwiedziu One of my projects is rewriting my installer. It works but requires more handholding than is ideal. But it's what I use for all the systems here that aren't running FreeBSD.

https://github.com/ChibaPet/install-debian-zfs-sysvinit

GitHub - ChibaPet/install-debian-zfs-sysvinit: Install Debian on ZFS, with sysvinit, optionally encrypted.

Install Debian on ZFS, with sysvinit, optionally encrypted. - ChibaPet/install-debian-zfs-sysvinit

GitHub
@mason …aaaaaaand cloned.