nixCraft 🐧Nov 6

End of Japanese community at Mozilla due to the introduction of AI-based translation.

The community members have expressed disappointment and frustration that their long term volunteer efforts and local knowledge were being replaced by machine translation, which they felt did not match the quality of human provided support.

This is why Mozilla sucks so much, they are going crazy like rest of the industry.

Source
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/forums/contributors/717446

Added screenshot in case Mozilla decided to remove it

gendernihilistNov 9
Show threadnixCraft 🐧
Every day, Mozilla leadership wakes up and thinks: "How can we piss off the tiny number of remaining users who are our biggest fans?" , all while C suites get millions in salary and add AI slop everywhere.
Nov 6 at 9:34amWeb
Show threadThibautNov 6
@nixCraft About to loose their 3% marketshare trying to gain the missing 97%
Show threadnixCraft 🐧Nov 6
@thibaut_plg exactly
Show threadAdmiral SnackbärNov 6

@thibaut_plg @nixCraft

The stupid thing is, some of the AI features could actually be useful and advertised as "we're the good guys".

Local AI based translation is objectively cool ( if it's actually working, that is).

Instead millions are wasted on crap and bad ads.

Show threadAlan HicksNov 6
@nixCraft enshitification was a warning not a playbook!
Show threadRadlerNov 6

@AlanHicksLondon @nixCraft I object: It is quite an old playbook that runs to extremes nowadays.
Enshitification is just the best fitting title for that playbook.

Makes me sad, that mozilla voluntarily and willingly jumped into using that playbook.
C'mon #mozilla try to be different not like aiverybody else.

Show threadJoeNov 6
@nixCraft
Waiting desperately for Ladybird. We need alternatives. I used Firefox, when it was Mozilla still and the version number was <1. But I am so fed up with Mozilla nowadays.
Show threadskategoat 🐐 🇵🇸Nov 6
@jdb78 @nixCraft you may want to check the bottom of this page https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/
Ladybird and the Controversy over Inclusivity

What people were upset about, why it blew up, and why some people are still leery of the project to this day.

Kelson Reviews Stuff
Show threadKoenNov 6

@nixCraft

When I checked out this controversy, it seems that the exact same change in a different PR was accepted later on. (The other points in the post still stand, of course)

It does make me sad though. It almost seems like open source is having a nazi problem. But I am hopeful those are just a loud minority.

Show threadKluthulhu' XOR 1=1--Nov 6
@koen @nixCraft I'd put it this way: Open source has a massive incel problem, many of which have been gaslit into blaming "others" or "DEI" for their solitude...
Show threadMarekNov 7
@koen @nixCraft Really? When I last checked (over a year ago), I think it still only had the male form.
Show threadKoenNov 7

@mark22k @nixCraft

I had to do some digging, but this was the commit I was talking about:

https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/commit/a2a6bc534868773b9320ec3ca7399283cf7a375b

However, the files have significantly changed since the controversy. So I am not 100% sure if this change is global for the project. Or just an isolated good example among a sea of bad examples.

Documentation: Fix some minor ESL grammar issues · SerenityOS/serenity@a2a6bc5

There are a few instances where comments and documentation have minor grammar issues likely resulting from English being the author's second language. This PR fixes several such cases, changin...

GitHub
Show threadJoeNov 6
@felipe
Just great. So another project down the drains... Thank you so much for pointing this out to me. Oh well... That just compounds my hate for human.... Pardon me, I mean my love for stones.
@nixCraft
Show threadThiagoNov 6
@felipe @jdb78 @nixCraft
Fuck. I just heard a podcast with Kling and was so excited about his projects. What a disappointment.
Show threadwhite_geckoNov 6
@jdb78 @nixCraft Also @servo might be interesting.
Show threadJoannaCanFixITNov 6
@white_gecko @jdb78 @nixCraft @servo isn't servo aimed at kiosks so it won't be ever a full blown browser for desktop?
Show threadwhite_geckoNov 6
@JoannaCanFixIT @jdb78 @nixCraft @servo The website says:
“Servo is a web browser rendering engine written in Rust, with WebGL and WebGPU support, and adaptable to desktop, mobile, and embedded applications.” So yes, but no–there could be a servo based full blown browser for the desktop.
Show threadAlfonso Martínez de LizarrondoNov 6
@JoannaCanFixIT @white_gecko @jdb78 @nixCraft @servo no, at the moment they are focused on the engine, not a polished browser.
They are working as best as they can with their available resources and you can already test it https://servo.org/download/
In the future there could be other browsers based on the engine like the are many chromium/blink browsers nowadays and some Firefox/gecko ones
Download - Servo aims to empower developers with a lightweight, high-performance alternative for embedding web technologies in applications.

Servo is a web rendering engine written in Rust, with WebGL and WebGPU support, and adaptable to desktop, mobile, and embedded applications.

Servo
Show threaddoragasuNov 6
@nixCraft That's painfully accurate.
Show threadsocNov 6
@nixCraft Their next job will be at Google proper, considering how much they worked on increasing Chrome marketshare. 🤷
Show threadTravisNov 6
@nixCraft You’re wrong. Mozilla leadership doesn’t think. And that’s the problem.
Show threadMelroy van den BergNov 6
@travis @nixCraft ow they do think. But only about money and AI now.
Show threadYoraNov 6
@nixCraft Where does the money come from, though?
Government grants, paid by taxes?
Show threadUsagiNov 6
@yora @nixCraft Google. They pay them for making their search the default.
Show threadderptronNov 6
@nixCraft How much are the C suits at Mozilla taking for themselves?
Show threadKnightmareNov 6
@nixCraft I'm pissed, they started putting ads in the form of bookmarks on their Firefox homepage for sites like Amazon...
Show threadDon MartiNov 7

@nixCraft also programmatic ads (!) which for now you can still turn off

https://blog.zgp.org/turn-off-programmatic-ads-in-firefox/

The Mozilla execs made a big deal out of this at Advertising Week in New York City recently, haven't been talking it up in community channels though...

turn off programmatic ads in Firefox