Utopia
CassandraLocal restaurants...I beg you...maintain an actual Web Site...that isn't Facebook or Instagram...I am pleading with you...just a simple site, on the web...for me, your old pal Sadsquatch...
KarakSindru (He/Him)@Sadsquatch yes! People don't realize how awful it is to visit a Facebook business page without logging in
@karaksindru one of the direst indignities of life in the 2020s!!
philipp@karaksindru @Sadsquatch only trying to extract 5 jpegs to get the menu.
Jason Bowen 🇺🇦@Sadsquatch I'd be content with a well-formatted plain text file (I may even prefer it)
Lstn2urmama 🇨🇦@Sadsquatch and stop blocking other good restaurants... when searching ...
WandreCanada@Sadsquatch This was always an issue for me but even moreso now that you need to log in to even view shit.
@wandrecanada we are thwarted at every turn
dragonfrog@Sadsquatch
Having the menu on the website would be nice but even just the physical address, phone number, and opening hours of the restaurant would be a good start.
Having the menu on the website would be nice but even just the physical address, phone number, and opening hours of the restaurant would be a good start.
@dragonfrog it's all I ask! Days and hours, location, any especially helpful info specific to their whole deal, phone number...
cricket_bacon"Local restaurants...I beg you...maintain an actual Web Site"
... with a menu
... and a phone number
@cricket_bacon pls 😭😭😭
James BrittAnd the address in plain site.
lizzzzard
Disisdeguey🔻PalestineAction🇵🇸@cricket_bacon @Sadsquatch And say NO to QR menus. I don't bring my phone.
@Sadsquatch Anyway, mastodon.social seems more polite than other social sites.
Daniel Gibson@Sadsquatch
same for bands
same for bands
Reddog@Sadsquatch @Doomed_Daniel That's my main gripe, as I work in entertainment...
The Turtle@Sadsquatch "weebly" sucks too. And half their sites scream DOWNLOAD OUR AAAAAAAAAPP!!!
Fuck your "app," Joe's New York Pizza in Iowa. Get your friend's teenage son to fix your website that he designed or at least tell him to hand over the password before he goes off to bible college.
Andrea@Sadsquatch yes! And a menu that doesn’t require me to enter the online ordering system!
@AustinAndrea the DREAM
Thommy@Sadsquatch I miss bands having websites too. Maybe we should bring back fansites as a thing!
robbielink@Sadsquatch
I've thought this so many times. All businesses.
I've thought this so many times. All businesses.
ForestWombat@Sadsquatch
I don’t patronise Facebook and don’t see sites that go there. Normal website for me
I don’t patronise Facebook and don’t see sites that go there. Normal website for me
👩🦯The Blind Fraggle@Sadsquatch And please have an actual menu, typed out, not just screenshotted.
someguyjg@Sadsquatch a thousand times this. Especially for Instagram because it's basically useless if you don't have an account. You're literally blocking people from being able to learn about your restaurant.
@someguyjg the worst!! I just want to see your stuff! Just let me see! 😭
@Sadsquatch I couldn't agree more!
Drinker@Sadsquatch Can't agree more because peoples " startup small and demium " need to stop relaying 100% on social media " big brothers " and make their own chatbox secure with privacy respect " I know you will order just food " but why you need to share that type of informations and details about your life to big giant corporation & that type of info it's a lot of money for theme, they collect resell it again.
🐜@Sadsquatch they will complain too expensive :(
Kristoffer Lawson@Sadsquatch I just bumped into another one where in an article they complained about how difficult it had been to find customers. But when searching for them online, no website! I was wondering if maybe they had shut down already until I eventually went out of my way and found them active on Facebook.
Where of course it was really difficult to figure out what their actual menu was. I failed and gave up.
Minimum that every #restaurant should have on an actual *website*, and easy to find (not hidden in small links behind marketing blurbs):
* Opening times
* Address
* Phone
* What their concept and food is about
* Pics showing actual interior, maybe exterior. Not just zoomed in pics of a plate. This tells me what vibe and environment to expect
* After all that, a menu is great
Many, if not most restaurants, even with a website, fail on these very basic requirements!
Stingray's Badger FriendI'm with you on the value photos of the joint, as a dog owner and family member to neurodivergent people, these are invaluable.
I.e. can I bring my dog, at least to outdoor seating?
Is your restaurant so gloomy I won't be able to see my food?
Jouni Seppänen@Setok @Sadsquatch And next to the opening times some statement such as "valid as of October 2018" or "next exceptions: Christmas 2025" that helps readers judge if the opening times are likely to be accurate.
@jks @Sadsquatch That's advanced level! if we can even reach the point where opening times are prominently shown, that would already be a level-up in many cases :D
Evan EdwardsAlso, how to apply for a job. I think that's the set of full items that my wife and I decided on when we used to go out quite often to new places and always used their websites.
All of that should be at the top of the page (or clearly, directly linked to an anchor at the bottom of the page) and also at the bottom of the page (where people look if they don't see it at the top).
It shouldn't be light grey and tiny nor MEGA HUGE because that too, is easy to miss.
Shred@Setok Also, photos of the actual plates, not stock photos. Bonus points if the photos are taken by a photographer.
Just BobAny desktop computer with Linux will do just fine too....
#TakeTheInternetBack with #SelfHosting!!!
Григорий КлюшниковI don't run into this very often myself but yeah somehow even a link to a pdf of the menu on some cloud storage is better than an account on a centralized social media platform
砂漠人 
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Rozzy Roswell@Sadsquatch eventually Facebook will dissolve into its own muck and everything will be clear like crystal Pepsi
Felix 🇨🇦 🇩🇪 🇺🇦@Sadsquatch Yeah, simple website with opening hours and the menu. Online order is optional for me as long as I can find the menu and a phone nunber.
Every day I bask in my own stu@fst @Sadsquatch opening hours and phone number can be in #osm ( anybody can update those ).
edit: and there's the tag cuisine= in openstreetmap, so you could ( depending how complete the data is ) filter based on a specific cuisine you looking for by using #overpassturbo , would you be able to do that if every restaurant around you had a simple website ?
menus could be in #openprices
@fst @Sadsquatch I just tried using overpassturbo with Vancouver, all match with amenity=restaurant and cuisine=* it gives 1756 POIs
here's the query https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2eSp
since you interacted positively with my post and in case you decide to go down the rabbit hole of adding opening hours @PanierAvide was kind enough to build this tool which significantly eases the task
@Serpico @PanierAvide oh heck that looks cool
keithzg@Sadsquatch "Sure, shall do!" a dozen local restaraunteurs say and proceed to make Squarespace sites where everything is an embedded PDF that stops displaying in 2.5 months and then they never fix it
Diabetic Heihachi@Sadsquatch
As a previous web developer that is now the back of house restaurant, I plead too... Because I want to maintain the one for the place I work at.
As a previous web developer that is now the back of house restaurant, I plead too... Because I want to maintain the one for the place I work at.
Eric Redegeld💻🏎️☀️🙋💖@Sadsquatch well they could try justbsocial.eu pages.
Algoritmes and bots free. So yess an real employ have to typ the latest news.
Algoritmes and bots free. So yess an real employ have to typ the latest news.
FoxFunction@Sadsquatch Reminds me of how some charities will use FB to list events and it's like why not just have an email listing since a chunk will ask for them.
In Search of a Better WorldYeah, if your web-presence is Facebook then I am never using your service. Whether it is a restaurant or plumber, or even an angling organisation masquerading as a conservation charity, it is dead to me.
@Sadsquatch Absolutely agree. Clicking link to 'our website' , only to end up on a Facebook page pisses me off.. Partly because it's lazy, but mainly because I no longer have an FB account. I hate the assumption that 'everyone is on FB. 🤬
MarkNW@Sadsquatch also essential information - ability to cater for dietary requirements (preferably by labelling on the menu, rather than a generic 'xx welcome' which might just mean one dish is suitable)
Shredd Tone 
@Sadsquatch ...or at the very least, maintain something that isn't on any Meta or X services.
DziadekThere are a few comments I’m seeing this morning like this.
Only on Facebook; only supports Chrome; won’t allow adblockers; even asking for a sign up before I’ve seen the first page: These all ensure you will not get my business.
And remember there is *not a single* product or service that I cannot do without. Nothing that warrants putting up with being screwed around.