Morgan
ErkhyanI’ve just seen someone describe Windows 11 as a “sloperating system”.
Non-Canon Homophobic Neopets NPC@erkhyan sloptimised
Veronica Olsen
jn (big endian energy)@erkhyan very flexible term. when it works, it means "slop operating system"; when it doesn't, "slow operating system"
Tyler K. Nothing@erkhyan PROTIP: Run TitusTech's WinUtil and clean out the slop. No more ads, copilot, recall, reporting back to the mother ship, etc. All very configurable and relatively easy to use if you follow the easy instructions. https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
@erkhyan Here are the docs. Sections in the left column. “Store" is where you can select apps to install as a batch, like Ninite. https://winutil.christitus.com/userguide/
🐈⬛David Sommerseth@dazo @erkhyan I actually use Fedora on all of my non-Mac machines and love it. I only run Windoze on one laptop with an eGPU to game on. My RX 5500 XT 8GB is a terrible graphics card, too, and while is plays well with Linux it's too underpowered to handle any of the games I regularly play (Rivals & Overwatch). I plan on replacing the card as soon as I can get something I can afford :) Clearly used. Maybe a 3070 or 6700. We'll see. And no, I don't have any tower desktops :)
John Dal@erkhyan No worse than Android or whatever Apple call their OS these days. The important thing is that they make money and steal information, not that they work.
ocdtrekkie@JohnDal @erkhyan iOS has very minimal advertising *currently* (though rumors are Apple is looking at adding ads to Maps, which is gross).
What's really frustrating in Windows case, is that it is probably the *best engineered* operating system, that then has so much garbage lopped on top it performs close to second-worst.
Windows 10 Mobile ran *smooth as glass* on incredibly modest hardware, the problem is *entirely* garbage on top.
cube@ocdtrekkie @JohnDal @erkhyan honestly, I disagree about the "best engineered" part, because I have worked on both Linux Network drivers and Windows "NDIS 6.0" drivers, and I can tell you that the "NDIS 6.0" network stack is poorly thought-out over-optimized bullshit.
And that's how the entire OS feels to me.
A bunch of "good Ideas" wrapped in years of structural incompetence, with nobody there to reject some hastily-written deadline-driven bullshit.
@qbe @JohnDal @erkhyan A lot of things in Linux feel downright primitive compared to the options I have on a Windows system. There's totally reasonable reasons for that, mind you.
A finely-tuned Windows 10 install can be *a thing of elegance*, and it can run on a potato from a decade ago. But you had to have an enterprise license agreement to get rid of half the junk. I hope 11 gets back there, but there is some real jank with rough perf costs.
@ocdtrekkie @JohnDal @erkhyan For me, elegant software is primitive, limited in scope, modular and well documented.
But this is a debate that goes back to Unix vs VMS and probably even further. I don't think I can convince you of my viewpoint, and I don't wish the psychological torture of having to know about the intricacies of the concept of a "NET_BUFFER_LIST" on anyone.
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James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺@erkhyan I heard someone else refer to it as Losedows
(Psst it was me, I called it that)
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PetterOfCats@erkhyan omg I spent all of Sunday trying to set up a new email for my partner on their laptop. So many ads and nothing worked. I could not believe how unoptimized and just flat broke and unusable W11 is. Installing Linux on it as soon as I can.
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Jimmy Angelakos 
@erkhyan My dream was to run every app inside a VM so I could be safe from my own operating system.
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Laurens@erkhyan I stripped all the slop out on the Windows 11 systems in my household (three - all work-related) and they're running fine now. I do have to keep my eyes open for any return of the slop, though.
Interestingly, my centrally managed work laptop with Windows 11 does contain some of the slop I just evicted from my private machines. You would think IT would make sure that the slop wouldn't be present in an OS that is used in an environment with more or less confidential information.
AaronGiven that much of the OS code itself is now slop, I question whether anyone can actually strip out all the slop.
@hosford42 Unfortunately not, of course. But I meant at least things like Copilot and other stuff that I don't want.
Ratboy (reformed dino pirate)
UkeleleEric@erkhyan brilliant phrase. Won't be on my home machine (still 10 at the moment, but will have to make the change to Linux at some point)
buherator
kas (she/her)@erkhyan Windows is like if they made a cucking ritual but for software. In all honesty, it's like if they made a cucking ritual for anything that touches windows.
Zeiros Lion@erkhyan
*slaps PC case* This baby fits so many teraslops!
*slaps PC case* This baby fits so many teraslops!
Pilsnerd@erkhyan Yesterday my day started with my dad asking "What is the best way to wipe out and re-partition for windows 11?" and ended with "Well... looks like we'll all be on linux pretty soon. No choice now."
I thought I was having a stroke
I thought I was having a stroke
Kevin RussellZorin Linux, which according to one measure is about the ninth largest distro. Or so. ...ish.
And they report, during the last five weeks, the new release was downloaded a million times.
And 780,000 of that million were to Windows machines. 78%
Head exploded indeed.
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θΔ ⋐ & ∞@erkhyan i saw that too
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