ErkhyanI’ve just seen someone describe Windows 11 as a “sloperating system”.
John Dal@erkhyan No worse than Android or whatever Apple call their OS these days. The important thing is that they make money and steal information, not that they work.
ocdtrekkie@JohnDal @erkhyan iOS has very minimal advertising *currently* (though rumors are Apple is looking at adding ads to Maps, which is gross).
What's really frustrating in Windows case, is that it is probably the *best engineered* operating system, that then has so much garbage lopped on top it performs close to second-worst.
Windows 10 Mobile ran *smooth as glass* on incredibly modest hardware, the problem is *entirely* garbage on top.
cube@ocdtrekkie @JohnDal @erkhyan honestly, I disagree about the "best engineered" part, because I have worked on both Linux Network drivers and Windows "NDIS 6.0" drivers, and I can tell you that the "NDIS 6.0" network stack is poorly thought-out over-optimized bullshit.
And that's how the entire OS feels to me.
A bunch of "good Ideas" wrapped in years of structural incompetence, with nobody there to reject some hastily-written deadline-driven bullshit.
@qbe @JohnDal @erkhyan A lot of things in Linux feel downright primitive compared to the options I have on a Windows system. There's totally reasonable reasons for that, mind you.
A finely-tuned Windows 10 install can be *a thing of elegance*, and it can run on a potato from a decade ago. But you had to have an enterprise license agreement to get rid of half the junk. I hope 11 gets back there, but there is some real jank with rough perf costs.
@ocdtrekkie @JohnDal @erkhyan For me, elegant software is primitive, limited in scope, modular and well documented.
But this is a debate that goes back to Unix vs VMS and probably even further. I don't think I can convince you of my viewpoint, and I don't wish the psychological torture of having to know about the intricacies of the concept of a "NET_BUFFER_LIST" on anyone.
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