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Pete Prodoehl 🍕

I took my daughter to buy a car today. The dealership could not run credit report due to AWS outage. She called the bank, they could not approve a large transaction because of the AWS outage. We went to the DMV, they were able to get her a replacement car title, but also mentioned some systems were down. Back to the dealership where they could not do the credit application to buy the car.

In a completely unrelated note, I think I have some ideas for disrupting Capitalism...

Gary "grim" Kramlich Oct 20

@rasterweb mono cultures eating themselves... mmmmmm 🤤

@rasterweb this is absolutely a mr. robot episode and i love it

@rasterweb I took my mom to a doctor’s clinic today for a procedure. Their payment system was down and they almost weren’t going to do the treatment, but it came back up in time. 🤬

Bogdan Buduroiu has moved Oct 20

@rasterweb ARPANET was built in a fashion that could withstand nuclear strikes on nodes.

The modern internet goes down if AWS sneezes

@bruvduroiu @rasterweb Well Putin knows where to aim now. Cloud dependency is a national security threat.

I am surprised the dealer could not just call in for approval. One things I'd expect them to have backups for is getting credit approved. That is their profit center.

GutterPoetry Oct 20

@mike805 @bruvduroiu @rasterweb

He may already have aimed and hit.

@GutterPoetry more likely for teenagers than Russia and please fuck off with that kind of shit. It is quite pathetic you low iq worm brain infested losers who offer nothing of value but cheap propaganda. @mike805 @bruvduroiu @rasterweb

@bruvduroiu @rasterweb There was nothing wrong with the internet, it worked all the time.

Pēteris Krišjānis Oct 20

@rasterweb banks having backup services, what are you, effectivity socialist? 😅
this is fucking farce.

Bob Horowitz Oct 20

@rasterweb
Next year: I could not start my car because AWS was down.
🙄

mastodonphan HAS MOVED Oct 20

@BobHorowitz @rasterweb Jeep be like 👀💦

@mast0d0nphan And by 'Jeep' you mean Stellantis. Which also means Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Ram, Vauxhall, Afa Romeo, Citroen, Lancia... .

Kevin Boyd (he/him) 🇨🇦Oct 20

@BobHorowitz @rasterweb something similar happened last week when Jeep messed up an OTA update.

Gabriel Pires Oct 20

@BobHorowitz @rasterweb Whenever brain chips roll out: I could not wake up because AWS was down 🤣

@BobHorowitz @rasterweb Hope you’re not hungry, because you’ll also be locked out of your fridge.

Bob Horowitz Oct 21

@WhiteCatTamer @rasterweb
Not to worry. I can survive on my earthquake stash of peanut butter and pop-tarts 👍

@BobHorowitz @WhiteCatTamer @rasterweb don't pop tarts require a working toaster? Or do you have a gas grill?

Bob Horowitz Oct 21

@pelha @WhiteCatTamer @rasterweb No problem... they're fine untoasted. Especially the gluten-free ones made by Katz. Being 50% sugar, they aren't just for breakfast. They do double-duty as dessert. Two meals for the price of one 👍👍

Andy Fletcher Oct 21

@pelha @BobHorowitz @WhiteCatTamer @rasterweb

I wonder if Talkie Toaster needs AWS to operate

@X31Andy @pelha @BobHorowitz @rasterweb Starting to wonder if I should watch Red Dwarf…

I did like Gilligan’s Island and Alf.

@BobHorowitz @rasterweb Ooooh if they’re the s’mores one you can make a peanut butter s’more sandwich!

Sensitivityi Oct 20

@rasterweb lmao let’s get em

mastodonphan HAS MOVED Oct 20

@rasterweb Meanwhile I'm here browsing media on the Fediverse, watching my shows on Stremio + RealDebrid, checking my Proton and Tuta emails and scanning docs on my Linux computer.

#FOSS #Decentralized #NoEggsInOneBasket #FuckCapitalism #FuckAWS #FuckJeffBozos

The Turtle Oct 20

@rasterweb yeah, one backhoe operator in Ashburn, Virginia can do more damage than every terrorist ever born.

And get paid $50 a hour for it!

Led By Gilded Fools Oct 21

@the_turtle @rasterweb

Let's breed more of these, expand their habitat.

The Turtle Oct 21

@MHowell @rasterweb yeah, but occasionally they hit a gas line and things get way too cinematic.

Steve Downey Oct 21

@the_turtle @rasterweb
Hawthorne Interchange north of NYC in Westchester has similar possibilities.

contranym Oct 20

💖Bianca💖Oct 20

@rasterweb This is a perfect, real-world example of systemic risk. It's incredible how a single point of failure at one provider can ripple out and grind basic transactions to a halt.

eagerly awaiting your newsletter

Eric's Edge Oct 21

@rasterweb similar experience last year when the SaaS provider for Dealership software was down due to hacking.

Cats Who Resist!Oct 21

@ericsedge now that you mention it, I can barely do my job without internet access. Not AWS, per se, but most of our documentation is cloud-based now (apparently it's NS1) @rasterweb

Seán Fenian Oct 21

@rasterweb We are at a point where if the Internet goes down hard, we are FUCKED. We'll be back to Pony Express. Except we won't have the horses.

@rasterweb and it was caused by dns.

@rasterweb ah yes the disruption of biting one’s own foot! The irony of a party greatly supported by auto dealerships… haha. I hope you can get your kiddo a car though!

Aoi_X_Kaizaki Oct 21

@rasterweb What is AWS?

Pete Prodoehl 🍕Oct 21

@Aoi_X_Kaizaki Amazon Web Services.

I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑‍🔥Oct 21

@Aoi_X_Kaizaki
Amazon Wreaks Shit
@rasterweb

rouxdoo √Oct 21

@rasterweb
lol...I work in sales. All day, everyone who wanted to buy something had their card declined because AWS is our payment processor's hookup. My company lost many thousands of sales today. I repeat - lol.

mcSlibinas Oct 21

@rouxdoo @rasterweb hehe, holiday at work 😂👍

The Turtle Oct 21

@rouxdoo @rasterweb oddly, Amazon's stock went up $3.45 a share yesterday as their main profit generator took a big shit and opened them up to untold lawsuits.

Pete Prodoehl 🍕Oct 21

@the_turtle @rouxdoo Do you think people were like "Wow, AWS is crucial and everything relies on it... invest!"

The Turtle Oct 24

@rasterweb @rouxdoo probably AI-driven computer trading. It went up the next day too.

Jason, Human, Average

@rasterweb
Lenin said we're three meals away from chaos. Perhaps we're three BGP misconfigurations away from Lenin.

MostlyBlindGamer Oct 21

@rasterweb for some reason, I can clearly hear Where is my mind? playing somewhere. Huh.

Nu Modular Oct 21

@rasterweb I... hereby... vowel... to the lower... consonant...

Simply Capital!

Pendell 🔜 TFF Oct 21

@rasterweb @bontchev Capitalism is so great and efficient to consolidate the entire internet to rely on one company's servers.

VessOnSecurity Oct 21

@pendell @rasterweb The problem here is not capitalism per se but the concentration of sources of products/services in a single producer (monopoly) or a small set of producers (oligopoly). The solution is not the scrapping of capitalism that the lefties dream about but better antitrust laws.

Pendell 🔜 TFF Oct 21

@bontchev @rasterweb Capitalism as a system always incentivizes consolidation of wealth and resources to the top. It is the ultimate zero sum game.

For instance at this point you're not really going to get good antitrust passed because the wealthy realized long ago that they could prevent that by simply buying out all the politicians. Nobody's going to stop them, and that's by design.

VessOnSecurity Oct 21

@pendell @rasterweb There are already plenty of antitrust laws that are dealing with the negative effects monopolism had in the "wild years". They just need to be improved, so that the free market capitalism is indeed a FREE MARKET capitalism. It brings way too many benefits to allow ourselves to destroy it - be it by socialism or by monopolism.

Pendell 🔜 TFF Oct 21

@bontchev @rasterweb The free market is what leads to monopolies. The government has to step in and break them up. But those antitrust laws are no longer being enforced, because ever since the Citizens United decision, corporations have been directly influencing policy and our leaders. And that decision was made in the interest of "freedom" but you cannot be truly free under the thumb of billionaires.

VessOnSecurity Oct 21

@pendell @rasterweb Yes, it does - which is why antitrust laws are needed. Yes, the current situation is not ideal and needs fixing - but the fix is *not* to dismantle the whole system of capitalism that has brought such great benefits.

Pendell 🔜 TFF Oct 21

@bontchev @rasterweb Well, dismantling might not be the best move, but we can certainly take steps to transition our economy slowly towards a social democracy that benefits everyone. A good first step would be to reverse Citizens United (oops, good luck with the current SCOTUS) and taxing billionaires fairly (oops, good luck with a billionaire in the highest office in the land)

VessOnSecurity Oct 22

@pendell @rasterweb The best solution is to enforce FREE MARKET capitalism. I agree that Citizens United ought to be reversed. Billionaires are indeed taxed unfairly - they pay the majority of tax in the USA. Taxes should be flat and equal for everyone.

BTW, the recent outage-caused problems were not so much Amazon's fault (it's not a monopoly; it handles about 30% of the cloud services) as the fault of the companies using it (relying on US-EAST-1 exclusively).

Pendell 🔜 TFF Oct 26

@bontchev @rasterweb "Taxes should be flat and equal for everyone" no. We need a progressive tax system like the one we used to have that allowed us to take on some of the biggest and most beneficial infrastructural and social projects our country has ever had, which have all since stagnated due to rising debt and lack of funds since we STOPPED taxing billionaires properly. Billionaires SHOULD pay the majority of the tax in the USA - after all, they steal more than anyone.

Pendell 🔜 TFF Oct 26

@bontchev @rasterweb As for companies relying on Amazon, it's almost like an incentive structure was allowed to grow that positioned AWS as a universally cheaper option to self-hosting, and in corporate America's endless pursuit of infinite profits over all else, a frankly terrifying amount of essential services rely on AWS running with 100% uptime and reliability. Capitalists will always prioritize short term profits over long term stability.

VessOnSecurity Oct 26

@pendell @rasterweb The tax is flat 10% in my country and it works just fine. It is one of the things that allowed us to rebuild our economy, which was driven into the ground by the decades of fucking socialism, so spare me the socialist bullshit.

Pete Prodoehl 🍕Oct 27

@bontchev @pendell I live in a country that has fallen into fascism in the last 9 months and I'd happily choose socialism over that.