evacideFor those of you who are wondering, the most important opsec lesson to take from the First Wap story is that if your threat model includes a government, do not take your cell phone with you to locations or meetings you don't want them to know about.
🐦🔥nemo™🐦⬛ 🇺🇦🍉@evacide Word 🤣
Royce Williams@evacide Indeed. Or, by extension, a car with cellular data service. Or even a Rayhunter IMSI-catcher detector (without additional SIM-card sourcing obfuscation).
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OwowA AvataraQ@evacide Odd isn't it? no one understands that communications that exist outside the mind are subject to confiscation, Be it pigeon bird, cipher or cell phone. It is subject to intercept. The only way to remain hidden while using a network it to make your chatter look like useless information but when read in a specific order it is then unscrambled into a non written down code. Like a one to one language. Alas non of the preppers are actually this willing to commit to good opsec. Military and Navajo speakers in WW2 are the closest to this idea.
tuban_muzuruI have this theory: the nation-state was never a particularly good model for government, mostly because stupid people are allowed to vote. And look at all the trouble they've caused in the last two centuries.
Our leaders have come to fear and hate us, hence all this Think of the Children rhetoric. As they fall further into the orbit of Big Money, they lapse in tyranny.
Big Brother is not only watching us, but testing the limits of our tolerance.
D Ingram@tuban_muzuru @evacide In Australia the stupid people are required to vote. It makes for some interesting political campaigning when getting people to the booth isn't an issue. Soooo much pork barrelling to buy influencer with our own money
River@tuban_muzuru @evacide I guess I'm struggling to understand what your definition of 'Nation State' here is? In practical terms, what would a government that isn't a nation state look like, exactly?
I always find the "there are stupid people voting" rhetoric to be slightly concerning, because you never know when somebody's going to decide to try to Do Something About It, which often has less than democratic implications.
1/ Okay, this is short enough to be somewhat wrong -- and long enough to be TL;DR.
The "state" (a sovereign territory) was born from the Peace of Westphalia in 1648.
The "nation" (a unified people with popular sovereignty) was added by the American & French Revolutions and 19th-century nationalism.
The US Civil War wasn't a triumph of federalism, but of federal supremacy. Then, technology changed sovereignty.
2/ Long-range bombers made borders porous, and ICBMs made them irrelevant, shifting state power from physical defense to nuclear deterrence (MAD).
This led to new models like the EU, which is a unique sui generis (one-of-a-kind) entity. Member states "pool sovereignty"—voluntarily giving up some control (like currency) to gain greater, shared collective power. This is a post-Westphalian survival strategy.
3/ With 8+ billion people, we now face "transnational challenges" (e.g., climate, pandemics, digital information) that individual states cannot solve alone. This requires a "harmonization" of national frameworks, or "global governance," to manage problems that ignore borders.
4/4 The "nation" (a cultural identity) and the "state" (a political territory) rarely match. This mismatch—such as nations without states (like the Kurds) or states with multiple nations—is a primary driver of modern political conflict.
TL;DR: Nation-states are become more trouble than they're worth imho.
bob.php 
@evacide @Flyingmana *cut to montage of phones being thrown out of car windows from every action movie where the fleeing person is half the age of the person helping them flee.*
mike morris@bobmagicii @evacide @Flyingmana
Didn't we already see that scene in Slow Horses? (Well, it wasn't out of car windows, it was down the storm drain, but you get the idea.)
Didn't we already see that scene in Slow Horses? (Well, it wasn't out of car windows, it was down the storm drain, but you get the idea.)
John Breen@evacide I'm hoping Google does not figure out a way to take my phone out of "Airplane Mode" remotely, and that "Airplane Mode" actually does what I expect...
But yes, leave it at home is the best advice.
But yes, leave it at home is the best advice.
Nicole ParsonsWhen #PrinceBonesaw is an investor ..& he has a history of hacking phones with the help of tech from Trump's billionaires...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/05/29/mbs-saudi-arabia-big-tech-authoritarian-embrace/
https://popular.info/p/the-murder-business
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/jamal-khashoggi-killing-cia-report.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-arabia-crown-prince-visits-apple-google-2018-4
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/07/heres-a-look-at-who.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-peter-thiel-rupert-murdoch-met-with-bin-salman-2020-1
https://www.theverge.com/amazon/667916/jeff-bezos-amazon-saudi-arabia-jamal-khashoggi
Martin Williges@jab01701mid @evacide when GPS is active (receive only) the location can be stored and transmitter later.
Miroslav Kravec@herrwilliges @jab01701mid @evacide great point about "loophole".
That's an optimization, that some environment monitoring devices use to conserve battery energy, where high frequency measurement data is needed, but not real-time.
Eventually, the data is there.
It can be applied to virtually anything, that can be recorded (location, microphone,...). And, to not raise suspicion, it would upload data only connected to WiFI (unmetered internet) and (to push it further, also) charging.
DEY!
keithzg
SnowBlind2005Replace 'cell phone' with 'compiling evidence against you device'
snornik@evacide Are ppl. really that stupid? Still? after so many years of this being common knowledge of abused tech? that they need to be reminded? carrying around the wet dream of every state actor in your pocket? Eric Arthur Blair = George Orwell would be rotating in his grave in a speed you could power a city with it 😹
Edit: or maybe a new category for the Darwin-Awards? Tech-Darwinism?
@evacide Tech-Darwinism: either evolve faster than your predators. or get eaten alive/ be exterminated for good. which also includes states. as long as 15 year old bored ppl. regularly fuck up state actors. maybe the fittest should survive not the money hording idiots living in the 1950's who's greatest tech skill is operating a FAX 😂