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Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU

Brussels proposed ending seasonal time changes in 2018, but seven years later everyone’s still winding their clocks back and forth.

https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-sanchez-restarts-push-eu-finally-end-daylight-saving-time/

Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU

Brussels proposed ending seasonal time changes in 2018, but seven years later everyone’s still winding their clocks back and forth.

POLITICO
Oct 20 at 3:38pmEU News
Show threadLeela TorresOct 20
@eunews
They also need to swap to GMT because that's timezone is more fitting for this geological location
Show threadkikebenllochOct 20
@LeelaTorres @eunews That'd be two wishes and I'm afraid expecting to be granted just one already seems too naïve...
Show threadVegOSOct 20
@eunews 50's clock?
Show threadDavid AdriãoOct 20
@eunews If only Portugal followed... After the time change it will be basically night when most people leave work, everyone I ever talked about it agrees but alas...
Show threadtiago Oct 20
@davidadriao @eunews still remember the years that portugal was in the same timezone as Germany. It was so good that it lasted 3 years.
I know the proposal is related to daylight time savings, but in practice it was as if PT not applying dts during winter (same as keeping the summer time). In peak winter sunrise was at 9am, just in time for school/work to start!
Show threadRay McCarthyOct 20

@eunews
Essentially due to the British border on the Island of Ireland the UK has a veto on abolishing the time shifts. The British/Germans introduced it during WWI in Europe. It was always almost pointless.

So the Spanish need to convince the British, who are not even in the EU.

Spain used to be in GMT, I think Franco changed to please Adolf? See map. Portugal, Ireland and UK are the same time zone.

Show threadPeter BrownOct 20

@eunews well done Spain!

Seems most other countries in the world have already abandoned it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country

Daylight saving time by country - Wikipedia

Show threadAngela ScholderOct 20
@eunews Finally!
Get rid of that insanity!
Show threadChao-c'Oct 20
@eunews I would definitely give up daylight savings time in exchange for Spain giving up support for Chatcontrol 🙂
Show threadQuincy ⁂Oct 20

@xChaos @eunews

Me too! This is brilliant. Somehow I doubt they'll do it, but let's propose it 😀

Show threadQuincy ⁂Oct 20

@xChaos @eunews

I'll much rather continue to live with this stupid collective practical joke "daylight saving time" than in a bloc that does #chatcontrol.

Show threadlabbatt50Oct 20

@eunews

Something that should never have been put in place to start with, in my opinion.
The sooner the world gets rid of this abberation of "time for convenience", the better off we all will be.

Show threadC.S.StrowbridgeOct 20

@eunews

We need to do the same in Canada. Daylight savings is garbage.

Show threadmirabilosOct 20
@eunews yesssss!
Show threadVladimir ChickenOct 20
@eunews noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Show threadY⃒̸̷̝̜̙ͥͥͥngmarOct 20
@eunews Yes please. Much more productive than making bottlecaps more annoying.
Show threadStarravenOct 20

@eunews

There's talk of doing it in Canada, but the wrong way. They want to stay on Daylight Saving Time, contrary to how human beings have lived for a quarter million years.

Show threadHenrik PauliOct 20

@starraven @eunews Society's expectations are *weird*. Although it shouldn't matter what numbers are on the clock when, as long as it's consistent, it sure seems like humans sometimes like some numbers better than others.

Instead of just starting the day earlier, Singapore is in a constant DST with the sun coming up and going down at 7 o'clock instead of 6. Iceland uses GMT so that what little sunlight people get in the winter, they have better chances at getting it.

Show threadexu0Oct 20

@starraven @eunews where I live, DST is summer time and being on wintertime in summer would mean that dusk starts at 3:37 and the sun rises at 4:18 mid June. That means most people will not have any benefit of it, while their summer evenings are cut one hour short.

Who the would want that?!

Show threadStarravenOct 21

@exu0 @eunews

This may come as a shock to you, but human beings have based their activities around sunlight for many thousands of years longer than we have had clocks.

Show threadexu0Oct 21
@starraven @eunews and you expect everyone to change their habits, time schedules (including public transport) etc. according to sunrise? If you do, you have much less of an idea of how human kind works than you think
Show threadStarravenOct 21

@exu0 @eunews

Human kind has a habit of messing with things in ways that don't work and stubbornly trying to claim it's an improvement, such as with the clock. I have a perfectly fine idea idea of how it works, I'd say.

Show threadExtra LimeOct 21
@starraven @eunews Exactly! It's been proven the incidence of cancer is higher in people living in the West side of time zones. Which means the sun rising later than "normal".
Show threadStarravenOct 21

@sun_addict @eunews

Plus, year-round DST has been done once before in the US. It was a disaster, as the sun didn't rise until well after 9 a.m. in some places. The death rate among children going to school spiked dramatically. It was repealed within a year, going back to the regular time change. People are once again ignoring history.

Show threadExtra LimeOct 21
@starraven @eunews Most people are focussing on the effects in summer but we need to think about winter first!
Show threadxs4me2Oct 20

@eunews

Owww, not again!

Show threadIngrid_DemokratinAusOLOct 20

@eunews

Sehr gut. Ich hoffe, ich erlebe noch das Ende dieses bescheuerten Spuks.

Show threadLuisOct 20
@eunews As long as they don't do it so it benefits businesses instead of life and families, great! But if they do it so it's daylight earlier (good for businesses) and dark in the early afternoon (in most people's spare time), not good at all. Let people LIVE enjoying daylight!
Show threadftgOct 20
@eunews
I hope this time works out.
Show threadNadinaramaOct 21
@eunews I'd love to sign a petition to upvote this initiative. I hate it so dearly. It is not healthy ⏰
Show threadLeela TorresOct 22

@Nadinarama @eunews
There was already a European citizens' initiative on this issue 1-2 years ago. The EU referred the matter back to the member states, and since then we have been back to square one.

The states cannot agree on whether to adopt permanent daylight saving time or standard time.
What was probably left out is that in the 1940s, too many states switched to CET, which makes no sense geographically.

Show threadHannyOct 21
@eunews Where do we sign the petition?! Get it done, ffs.