European News 🇪🇺Oct 20

Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU

Brussels proposed ending seasonal time changes in 2018, but seven years later everyone’s still winding their clocks back and forth.

https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-sanchez-restarts-push-eu-finally-end-daylight-saving-time/

Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU

Brussels proposed ending seasonal time changes in 2018, but seven years later everyone’s still winding their clocks back and forth.

POLITICO
Show threadStarraven

@eunews

There's talk of doing it in Canada, but the wrong way. They want to stay on Daylight Saving Time, contrary to how human beings have lived for a quarter million years.

Oct 20 at 8:27pmWeb
Show threadHenrik PauliOct 20

@starraven @eunews Society's expectations are *weird*. Although it shouldn't matter what numbers are on the clock when, as long as it's consistent, it sure seems like humans sometimes like some numbers better than others.

Instead of just starting the day earlier, Singapore is in a constant DST with the sun coming up and going down at 7 o'clock instead of 6. Iceland uses GMT so that what little sunlight people get in the winter, they have better chances at getting it.

Show threadexu0Oct 20

@starraven @eunews where I live, DST is summer time and being on wintertime in summer would mean that dusk starts at 3:37 and the sun rises at 4:18 mid June. That means most people will not have any benefit of it, while their summer evenings are cut one hour short.

Who the would want that?!

Show threadStarravenOct 21

@exu0 @eunews

This may come as a shock to you, but human beings have based their activities around sunlight for many thousands of years longer than we have had clocks.

Show threadexu0Oct 21
@starraven @eunews and you expect everyone to change their habits, time schedules (including public transport) etc. according to sunrise? If you do, you have much less of an idea of how human kind works than you think
Show threadStarravenOct 21

@exu0 @eunews

Human kind has a habit of messing with things in ways that don't work and stubbornly trying to claim it's an improvement, such as with the clock. I have a perfectly fine idea idea of how it works, I'd say.

Show threadExtra LimeOct 21
@starraven @eunews Exactly! It's been proven the incidence of cancer is higher in people living in the West side of time zones. Which means the sun rising later than "normal".
Show threadStarravenOct 21

@sun_addict @eunews

Plus, year-round DST has been done once before in the US. It was a disaster, as the sun didn't rise until well after 9 a.m. in some places. The death rate among children going to school spiked dramatically. It was repealed within a year, going back to the regular time change. People are once again ignoring history.

Show threadExtra LimeOct 21
@starraven @eunews Most people are focussing on the effects in summer but we need to think about winter first!