"#Microsoft built a data centre in the northwestern Netherlands despite opposition from local farmers, promising it would only need between 12 and 20 million litres of water annually. Dutch media later revealed the data centre was consuming more than four times that — as locals were being asked to limit their own water use. " #Tech #Environment #ClimateChange cc: @cbcnews https://www.cbc.ca/news/ai-data-centre-canada-water-use-9.6939684
Thirsty AI data centres are coming to Canada, with little scrutiny or oversight | CBC News

Canada is poised to join the data centre boom. But as such projects face greater scrutiny around the world, there is little debate here about what this will mean for the country’s water.

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@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews A promise without a contract seems a bit wild.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews NOBODY needs all this godamn "data"!
@Ponygirl @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews really, we don't need a controller sphere. Why do all these corporations feel gifting their data to an external mining company is such a great idea?
@cmthiede @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews It'll probably all end up at Palantir so weirdo freak Peter Thiel can blackmail us.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews Canada has population about twice that of the Netherlands, but land area about 250 (!) times larger, which results in population density of 4.2ppl/km² compared to 520 for the Netherlands. If any country can handle the needs of the ever-expanding datacenters, it is Canada.
@blotosmetek @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews That’s a weird take: these data-centres aren’t being built in tundra, but in communities with decent data links and access to water and power. So, yeah, they absolutely screw over the people who live there. Part of me thinks Nanaimo was picked b/c it’s a small community and easy to steam-roll over by MS.

@wbftw @blotosmetek @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews And given MS's Project Natick, why aren't they investing in underwater datacenters?

https://natick.research.microsoft.com/

Project Natick Phase 2

Project Natick is a research project to determine the feasibility of subsea datacenters.

@Toxic_Flange @blotosmetek @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews they spent all their $$$ on nvidia h/w.
@blotosmetek @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews Canada can't even get potable drinking water to first nations people..
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews
If it were burned to the ground, it wouldn’t consume any more water. Just saying.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews is the water polluted or wasted? Isn’t the water returned to the environment? Or is the water evaporated? Is that why water has to be consumed continuously?
@francois @cbcnews "The drinking water used in data centers is often treated with chemicals to prevent corrosion and bacterial growth, rendering it unsuitable for human consumption or agricultural use. This means that not only are data centers consuming large quantities of drinking water, but they are also effectively removing it from the local water cycle." https://utulsa.edu/news/data-centers-draining-resources-in-water-stressed-communities/
Data centers draining resources in water-stressed communities

This opinion column was written by Eric Olson, Anne Grau, and Taylor Tipton and was first published in the Dallas Morning News. Olson is an associate

The University of Tulsa
@francois @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews as part of the process the water receives, amongst other things; anti corrosive, antifungal, antibacterial chemicals. So by the time they are done with it it is in the category of undrinkable. I believe there was some report that even claimed water filtration plants were unable to effectively clean it, so they had to dump it as well.
@aprazeth @7sleepersmusic @cbcnews ha, makes a ton of sense! Thanks for the clarification.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews somebody(s) sure wanted that thing built and probably got a hefty thank you from MS too.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews Limit your water use or the billionaires will have a smaller multi-million bonus

@7sleepersmusic why grow food when we can run AI servers instead <3

AIs don't need to eat :)

@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews so in the end, it would be cool to be friends with a country that has a lot of unused land and would be very grateful if someone came to use it and build infrastructure there.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews dumb question: why isnt it in a closed loop? just with a heat exchanger, that cools down the water and then back in the circle? is it rally that much cheaper to drain fresh water all the time and put it into the wastewater?
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews What is the point of a promise if breaking it has no repercussions for the liar?
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews

If only there were a way to restrict their water usage.

Globally, water needs to be metered on a graduated basis.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews Or, let them build their data center, and only give them the water they claimed they would use... If there is a way to limit farmers water usage, there is a way to limit their usage too.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews just FYI building burns . Just saying
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews Wtf Nanaimo’s mayor is going on about: data-centres do not require many people to run and do not change local economy (if jobs are created, it’s elsewhere), but they are a resource hog.

@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews

Shut it down.

Shut it down.

Turn it off.

We can, we have, we will.

No.

Shut it down.

#utilitybill #climate #forestFires

@7sleepersmusic
Cut off their electricity.
Sorted.
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews  Dude! That is sick, and not the good kind. Forcing local farmers to reduce water while Data centers come in to suck them dry? That's insanely unjustifiable! 
@7sleepersmusic @cbcnews y el capitalismo sigue insistiendo con su retórica engañosa de que es sostenible y que no perjudica a las comunidades acá en Chile por ejemplo los capitalistas locales aliados con el neoliberalismo internacional insisten que el proyecto minero Dominga no destruirá la reserva mundial de la biosfera la higuera......