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David Colquhoun Oct 13

@elduvelle I also did a lot of computation but your poll wouldn't let me choose more than one option!

@david_colquhoun I know.. Sorry about that, I need to be able to count each person only once!

Albert Cardona Oct 13

Connectomics – does that count as experimental or as computational? I'm fine with neuroanatomist. But we sure do both experiments and models as well.

@albertcardona I'm afraid that for the sake of this poll you'll have to choose, I think I would consider you more on the experimental side of things but it's up to you :)

Jakob (he/him)Oct 13

@elduvelle in English does academic mean working at a university or just having a college degree?

@blauertee In my mind it's more about your job than your degree, so neither of those, more about: are you doing some kind of fundamental research as (part or all of) your job?

Jonathan Z Simon Oct 13

@elduvelle Auditory neuroscience, experimental & computational 60/40 (rounding up to experimental)

Ko-Fan Chen 陳克帆 Oct 13

@elduvelle just voted and felt sad about the percentage of my kind

@kofanchen ahaa 😅 I just see it as the fediverse somewhat reflecting the general population a bit more than my own follower circle :)

@kofanchen
@elduvelle
Me too and then I saw the denominator. Since when do fedi polls get this many votes lol

Ko-Fan Chen 陳克帆 Oct 13

@jonny @elduvelle wow...that is a big number!

@kofanchen @jonny @elduvelle

Albert Cardona Oct 13

500 boosts so far. RIP your notifications.

@albertcardona The Fediverse always answers when you ask nicely!
@kofanchen @jonny

@elduvelle
@albertcardona @kofanchen
Beware the monkey's paw

@jonny @albertcardona @kofanchen the problem though is if our percentages stay at 1% and the total n keeps increasing, the actual count could be anything from 1 to 1% of the n...

@elduvelle @albertcardona @kofanchen the actual numbers are in the raw json form of the post (scroll to bottom): https://neuromatch.social/@elduvelle/115366053057073359.json

@elduvelle i would argue that large proportions of non-neuroscientists are a good thing. after all aint the goal to communicate to a broad audience rather than chatting amongst ourselves???

@jonny yes definitely! In this case my colleague wants to advertise a conference and is wondering if it's worth creating an account for the conference on here. They will have one on Bluesky..

@elduvelle
To some degree a self fulfilling prophecy: the neuroscientists are here if they come here, and elsewhere if they go elsewhere. Tell them to turn on the bridge at least!

@jonny @albertcardona @kofanchen
Amazing thank you!!
So, currently we're at:
o1: 18
o2: 21
o3: 23
o4: 521
o5: 1137

Not bad!

Nicole Göbel Oct 13

@elduvelle
Currently Health Data Scientist

Elias MB Rau Oct 13

@elduvelle "another" field, cognitive neuroscience in my case

@eliasraw isn't that either experimental or computational neuroscience? 🤔

Elias MB Rau Oct 13

@elduvelle hmm ok well, probably yes, sry

@eliasraw no worries, I do wonder who are those who selected the "other kind of neuroscientist", I thought nobody would select it!

chiasm Oct 14

@elduvelle @eliasraw I put in "other" because I'm a cognitive neuroscientist. I thought Experimental meant you poke holes in animals. 🧐

El Duvelle Oct 14

@chiasm whaaat.. Why? I am a cognitive neuroscientist since I study cognition in rats.. and I'm sure all human neuroscientists do experiments? So we're all experimental neuroscientists surely?
@eliasraw

chiasm Oct 14

@elduvelle @eliasraw Yeah that's probably just my bias. I was expecting to see a division between molecular, behavioral (animal) and cognitive/clinical (human) neuroscience.

El Duvelle Oct 14

@chiasm
Yeah, I have seen these divisions but I don't understand them.. Humans are animals and work pretty much the same way so I'm not sure why we always want our "special category" 😅
@eliasraw

chiasm Oct 14

@elduvelle @eliasraw Maybe the divisions should be "needs no approval", "needs IACUC approval" and "needs IRB approval"? (at least in the US) 😄

But seriously, "pretty much the same way" is doing some heavy lifting there. Yeah, it's "pretty much". I supposed we could divvy it up by species rather than an arbitrary human/nonhuman division. Given what works in a frog is "pretty much" what works in a hamster, or across any two animal species.

Elias MB Rau Oct 14

@elduvelle @chiasm yeah, definitely most if not all experimental neuroscience in humans / human cognition as well! I gave this much more thought now than before giving a response 🙂

Überdurchschnittlauch Oct 13

@elduvelle
Well, aren't we all kinda experimental neuroscientist as soon as we get in contact with other humans? 🤔

@ueberlauch :) only if we run and publish experiments on them, I would say :)

Überdurchschnittlauch Oct 13

@elduvelle
... I just haven't finished my publication yet.

😁

Tanguy Fardet Oct 13

@elduvelle missing a "I'm a former neuroscientist checkbox" 😁

David in Tokyo Oct 13

Does having an all-but-thesis from Roger Schank, owning a copy of "Principles of Neuroscience", reading the neuro articles in Science, and screaming at folks who say silly things about neurons on the internet count?

If so, count me in.

(I guess under "fan of neuroscience".)

@djl I would say reading about neuroscience (even if a lot) is not enough to make one a neuroscientist... For that you also need to create the neuroscience content (either through experiments or models)

@elduvelle my day job is electrochemistry

@glasspusher Love this

@elduvelle oh? Any particular reason why?

@glasspusher well, it was a great example of a reply guy answer, and your profile says 90% reply guy (+3% humour) so... I found that funny 😄

@elduvelle oh! You said in the poll that more specifics were welcome

@glasspusher oh.. You were saying that on top of being a neuroscientist you were also doing electrochemistry? I see, oops, I mean that does seem cool 😅

Edit: never mind, you were answering as any kind of scientist (option 4), I get it now

@elduvelle correct

I’ve done research on dopamine detectors, so I’m willing to meet the neuroscientists halfway

Chancerubbage Oct 13

@elduvelle @Barbramon1

I suppose armchair neuroscientists and former psych majors, and popular science readers and otherwise interested in neurology, brain science, and psych ,healthy or otherwise, should just say no.

@Chancerubbage @Barbramon1
Well, not sure what an armchair neuroscientist is, but I would say the definition of neuroscientist is someone who has done experiments (or models) in the neuroscience field and published them

Chancerubbage Oct 13

@elduvelle @Barbramon1

I think it’s a metaphor😉

J4YC33 ❌Oct 13

@elduvelle I previously studied neurochemistry, and I was conducting a Data Analysis thesis experiment on creating a pseudospatial map from EEG waveform calculations, but was unable to find funding and an IAB to convene.

I don't think I'm a Neuroscientist though... My actual conferred degrees are in Information Technology, Cybersecurity, and Information Assurance.

@j4yc33 do you have any published papers in a neuroscience field? If so I would say you are a neuroscientist. I would say degrees are mostly irrelevant, there are many possible paths to being a neuroscientist.

J4YC33 ❌Oct 13

@elduvelle Definitely not published. Only the one was close.

Winter Trabex Oct 13

Not a scientist or academic. I worked as a reporter for five years. Now I'm just a person who likes learning things.

fundamental Oct 13

@elduvelle I was a computational neuroscientist in my academic days. It certainly was a field that needed more applied math to get into the more interesting signal processing problems at that point. My focus bounced between a few tasks speech-synthesis/sleep disorders/Parkinson's/etc. Also, I'm still baffled that they let SfN happen. That was waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy too many domain specialists in one location at a time.

@fundamental I quite like SfN!! A rare occasion to see and possibly talk to so many experts of your field, all in the same place at the same time!

OnePlanet 💖🇺🇸 🌎Oct 13

Not, but I worked in clinical trials with neuro surgeons for +10-yrs who installed coils to stop brain aneurysms. Brilliant, curious about all new tech, and truly cared about the patients.
Mad respect 🫡

@OnePlanet cool stuff!!

Kora

Oct 13

@elduvelle i'm not a studied scientist, but i work in the biological scientistic field with my job degree. Does that count as the fourth option?

@Korawolfsrain do you run experiments (or models) and then publish the results? If so I would say you are a scientist / academic. If not, then probably not but there might be exceptions I haven't thought of..

Kora

Oct 13

@elduvelle alright, i'll grouped myself in the non scientists for now then

I can work in a space where they run experiments, but i currently don't

Boris Barbour Oct 13