Ken '|<3ns41' 🌻 🫰🏻Oct 12
xero
Oct 12 at 8:57pmWeb
Show threadWolf480plOct 12

@xero what's 'd' ?

EDIT: nvm thanks for fixing it

Show threadxeroOct 12
@wolf480pl a secret integer. both sides of the exchange generate them the same way. but with different values
Show threadWolf480plOct 12
@xero
but it doesn't appear anywhere else, and later the shared secret is g^(ab) not g^(db)
Show threadxeroOct 12

@wolf480pl Alice and Bob agree on a prime number, p, and a base, g, in advance. For our example, let's assume that p=23 and g=5.

Alice chooses a secret integer a whose value is 6 and computes A = g^a mod p. In this example, A has the value of 8.

Bob chooses a secret integer b whose value is 15 and computes B = g^b mod p. In this example, B has the value of 19.

Alice sends A to Bob and Bob sends B to Alice.

To obtain the shared secret, Alice computes s = B^a mod p. In this example, Alice obtains the value of s=2

To obtain the shared secret, Bob computes s = A^b mod p. In this example, Bob obtains the value of s=2.

The algorithm is secure because the values of a and b, which are required to derive s are not transmitted across the wire at all.

Show threadWolf480plOct 12

@xero I know how Diffie-Hellmann works.

I was pointing out inconsistent use of variable names

Show threadxeroOct 12
@wolf480pl sorry my meme is not up to standards. was just trying to be funny and make people smile ✌️
Show threadWolf480plOct 12
@xero sorry for being pedantic... it's a very good meme, which is why I paid attention to it in the first place.
Show threadxeroOct 12
@wolf480pl no worries. and likewise my apologies for assuming you were quizzing me about the value of 'd'.
Show threadWolf480plOct 12
@xero
Show threadWolf480plOct 12
@xero it's not a real "a", just a "d" with the stem hidden behind a yellow square, but I hope it's close enough
Show threadxeroOct 12
@wolf480pl fixed ty ✌️😆
Show threadjonathankoren™Oct 12
@xero Known as “Best Practice” west of the Rockies
Show threadJohn Philip BellOct 17

@jonathankoren @xero

Thank you... I literally looked at the thread only to look for a "Best Foods" reference.

Show threadEllie The Yeen Deerg ΘΔ&Oct 12
Funny thing is this is not even the first time someone has done this
Show threadJoe AlexanderOct 12
@ellietheyeen @xero I’ve always thought this.
Show threadNavi  Oct 13
@ellietheyeen @xero and that one's not even AI slop!
Show threadMichael GemarOct 12
@xero @pluralistic Nice.
Show threadƧƿѦςɛ♏ѦਹѤʞOct 12
@xero
Ha!
Show threadxeroOct 12
@spacemagick phrase b0b! enjoy some slack
Show threadLeafy GreensOct 12
@xero @soatok
Show threadJason ClorOct 12
@xero I wish I knew what this meant so I can laugh at the joke
Show threadchollingOct 13
@xero My friends Alice and Bob really like this stuff.
Show threadJonathan LamotheOct 13
@cholling @xero I hear Eve really hates it, though.
Show threadunsponsorOct 13
@xero thank you for making this I think it every time
Show threadDizzy the VoidOct 13
@xero A jar of mayonnaise labeled "Diffie Hellman's Key Exchange (est.1976)" with a diagram describing how the DH key exchange works. "Net weight 32oz (946 mL)"
Show threadantlersOct 13

@[email protected] @mttaggart slop >:c
probably had https://image1.slideserve.com/2346009/diffie-hellman-key-exchange-n.jpg in it's training set

edit: re-drafting as public bc no one's said it explictly yet, am sad i'm seeing it not mad u "made" it: will curate my follows and/or block u (OP) as needed (usually these things have just slipped thru c:)

Show threadxeroOct 13
@antlers cool dude, you do you. i was just trying to make someone smile. sorry the diagram of the algorithm isn't perfect ✌️
Show threadantlersOct 13

@[email protected]
> sorry my meme is not up to standards

Deja vu >u< read that on a meme sub this morning, mod said "well, we held a community vote..." -- things are different here of course, we interact with different spheres: I can expect not to see genAI assets, you can do you, and if it had been obvious (disclosure, maybe?) I just wouldn't see it c:

My beef is just with that, the permeable boundary of spheres with different social norms, which (bc we can't always be vigilant) effectively operates on disclosure. But between us, the polorizing nature of genAI assets, and hence their widespread distain, is well-known. The joke *is* funny, it *is* good to do quick things to try to make people smile -- but there were quick ways to do it that wouldn't have made anyone frown either.

Show threadxeroOct 13

@antlers I don't frequent any meme subs so I don't know what moderator or posts you speak of.

but as far as generated art goes, I tell the computer to do a thing and it does. whether that's with my mouse in photoshop, my keyboard in a text editor. a prompt in a chat box. either way, if I'm not physically painting it or drawing it, it's generated by the computer. how much of that influence is me and how much of that influence is the machine is variable depending on a lot of factors.

in this case it was like a passing joke I wanted to make. I didn't have the time nor desire to make something in "more manually" in design software anyhow at that moment. it was just supposed to be funny.

Show threadxeroOct 13
@antlers another example I always use is my friend who is a fantastic writer but was never been able to gain any traction with her work. she tried commissioning traditional artists. but no one was really interested in doing the amount of animation she needed for the amount of money she had. but as soon as she started generating visuals to go along with her writing, she gets millions of people hearing her stories finally. she spends an insane amount of times generating prompt after prompt until the visuals exactly match what she's looking for. I don't consider that slop in the slightest. The junk that I made on the other hand I will agree with. but I don't agree that all generated art is ✌️
Show threadantlersOct 13

@[email protected]

> I don't frequent any meme subs so I don't know what moderator or posts you speak of.

I don't usually either, and in fact sunk some time into finding it and couldn't be more specific (super healthy behavior ik >u<)

> if I'm not physically painting it or drawing it, it's generated by the computer. how much of that influences me and how much of that influence is the machine is variable depending on a lot of factors.

How much of that influence normalizes implicit endorsement of the AI industry, or how much is stolen from uncredited sources never given the opportunity to consent, depends on exactly one factor.

I'm actually sympathetic, I get it's more work to sketch it on printer paper, to cut and paste it in Canva, GIMP, or MS-Paint -- I've got a bunch of funny ideas in the "someday" pile myself, just a little too much work to do right now but not *quite* funny enough to put aside the ethical implications of my actions or compromise the quality of my work for :c

Show threadxeroOct 13
@antlers by virtue of my job role, for the last... idk 6 months or so ive been on and off tasked with investigating all these AI tools that different teams wanted to use and what their security implications and any possible mitigations would be, regardless of my personal feelings about them. That's where the market is going, so being a security practitioner it's my job to follow all the other sheep and see what I can break along the way
Show threadxeroOct 13
@antlers my life mentally is I'm ready to use whatever tool is available for me to get the job done. doesn't have to be the best one. just got to get shit done. if I don't fix it no one else will and it will just be broken. it's for me, AI is just another tool like anything else. i look up programming questions on stack overflow & see just as many wrong answers as some bot gives me in a chat box. no matter what, you always have to do your own research on anything ya read.
Show threadnoplasticshowerOct 13
@xero I know them both...they are not much like mayo. Lol
Show threadARGVMI~1.PIFOct 13

@xero

Shelf life: 50 years

Show threadPetr TesaříkOct 13
@argv_minus_one @xero
Actually, that depends on net weight (which is shown wrong here). Your answer may be right for net weight 2048 bits.
Show threadEndlessMasonOct 13
@xero so, this, but with pegs on it so i can hang it by the door
Show threadNekodojoOct 13
@xero
Clearly fake because it’s “32 fl oz” and not 31 due to the magic displacement bubble
*laughs*
*sobs*
Show threadxeroOct 13
@nekodojo bwahahahaha!
Show thread`Da ElfOct 13
@xero That's, a way to look at it.
Show threadJRandomHackerOct 13
@xero posting this in my work group chat prompted the phrase "Elliptic Curve Mayonnaise"
Show threadJ. PetersonOct 13
@xero @NanoRaptor
Show threadSoftwarewolfOct 13
@xero @soatok For good measure
Show threadPuffin ladyOct 13
@xero @soatok Is mayonnaise secure E2EE ?
Show threadEhay2kOct 14

@Puffin @xero @soatok

I think mayo, when used properly, is E2EC - edge to edge condiment.

Show thread🇺🇦 haxadecimal 🚫👑Oct 13
@xero
In parts of the country, you have to substitute Diffie Best Foods.
Show threadKevin Karhan Oct 13
@xero that's some @NanoRaptor - level #PremiumShitpost!
Show threadNavi  Oct 13
@xero slop slop slop.
Show threadAlexander ShendiOct 13

@xero

"Bring out the best ..." 🤮

Encryption makes you vomit?

Show threadBenBEOct 13
@xero Best served with some Caesar's Cipher …
Show threadSchumacher L.Oct 13
@xero Shouldn't it be g^a mod p first?
Show threadCrazy-to-BikeOct 13
@xero 👍
Show threadCarlos SolísOct 13
Or as they call it on Mexico, Diffie-McCornick
Show threadEric LasotaOct 13
@xero I assume you need to spread it thoroughly on both slices so that a MITM (meat in the middle) attack is unable to absorb any bread crumbs.
Show threadxeroOct 13
@EricLasota meat in the middle attacks. im dying 😆
Show threadFrost, wolf of winter 🐺🎄Oct 13
Hellman's mayo, but it's been edited to say "Diffie Hellmann's Key Exchange" with a diagram of the key exchange protocol on it. It still says "Net Wt 32 oz (946 ml)".
Show threadEli the BeardedOct 13

@xero

Called Best key exchange west of the Rockies

Show threadbewitchedmindOct 17
@xero #AltTxtFromHell
Show threadLudwig VielfrassOct 18
@xero Known as Diffie-Best West of the Rockies.