"Asking enslaved people if they actually want to work the plantations for free would kill the cotton industry."

-- Nick Clegg

#AI #AIcon #exploitation #BigTech

@ilumium if a multi-billion dollar company can't afford to follow the law, it's not worth multiple billions of dollars.

@pmb00cs @ilumium

... and if they don't follow the law, it's organized crime, not a business.

@ilumium And that would be bad because…?
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Yeah, well, that’s Nick.
@ilumium Well then there's your answer, let's get about it then

@ilumium Shocking. Really, Clegg? Are you really that into AI that you expect artists and writers to conform to use AI to write and draw? Can't you draw or write stuff yourself?

Is Clegg that pathetic that he needs AI to do his job for him?

@ilumium digital colonialism, let's mine out the wealth created by others claim ownership and leave denying the wealth taken ever had any value (from the press conference in our newly built corporate palace)
@curiously @ilumium That’s it exactly: digital colonialism, a last ditch and final push to save Empire by any means possible, no matter the cost and consequences. Clegg is responsible for effectively destroying the Liberal Democratic Party. All because only those parties who are loyal to Empire’s fascists, as in their celebrity cults can do no wrong. The fact that so many can be bought and brainwashed to serve its techno fascists and their cults is beyond depressing. It must be a mind virus. No wonder there is a mental health crisis. #AiEmpire #DigitalColonialism #IPTheft
#AiIPTheft #AiIsCorporate #Ai #IP #ArtificialInformation
@ilumium kill it already then
@ilumium Boiling water before you drink it would destroy the intestinal parasite industry.
@ilumium he's such a piece of shit, meta suck up and tory lackie who ran away after he fucked everything up
@ilumium Oh, if it isn't Mr. Let Me Tell You What the EU Needs to Do to Address the Grievances of Brexit Voters... 🤭
@ilumium forcing billionaires to pay tax would kill the yacht market...

Why should anyone care if the #AI industry is in fact killed? It's a technology that's explicitly intended to destroy jobs and enrich oligarchs. Fuck it.

#llm

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@mrundkvist @ilumium

I sympathize with your sentiment across all of your posts critiquing "AI" per se...but I don't think we can shy away from the strides done with the technology, like strides made in predicting cancer behavior, breakthroughs in the medical field et. c.

And as a programmer... well... the numbers seem to be in and are mostly cynical in regards to whether or not an actual improvement has occured across the board from a productivity perspective.

But I can tell you confidently that utilizing AI to do my work or contribute to open source projects feels fantastic as I sit with models and get a hang of "what type of weight they can pull" and from there I gauge what I can get out of it and there is A LOT of cognitive load that I can instead focus on Software architecture rather than sifting through documentation for a lot of mundane/technically redundant programming.

Is it currently enshittifying the world? Hell yes.
Did it bite the job market and cause me pains in 2024 and the beginning of 2025? Yep. You bet.

Is it all bad? No. And we can't understate the improvement vector. How many times did you hear us b*tch and moan over water and electricity usage for Google searches as a society?

Right? ... well they're inching in on having regular AI-query at that level of energy/water consumption and the trajectory for it is fantastic.

It's easy to get lost in "what generative AI has done to social media and academic writing" or in my case "what AI has done to programming as a whole" ...and I'm right there with you. We just can't write off the entire thing. I'm not Kurzweil levels of "bracing for AGI" or any of that (the name is horrible, we are not even emulating human cognition per se), we haven't seen any proper signs, I remain skeptic... but even LLMs as such ARE doing a lot of interesting things in the right places... we just have this inflated repackaging of it right now as it's the only thing interesting that has happened in Tech since "Moores Law for hardware, graphics and network speeds" started to cool down.

Rant over. Send me rårakor

@dotmavriq
There are many different machine learning techniques. I am a warm friend of the analytical ones where you e.g. show the machine laser altimetry models of 25 known charcoal production sites and then ask it to identify similar ones in a huge dataset. I am opposed to the use of LLMs to generate prose and answer factual questions. Because there is no intelligence there. It's autocomplete.

#llm #ai

@mrundkvist
Don't you think the current iteration will burst veeeery very soon though.

As in, consumers/lawmakers will get wise to exactly how inaccurate and flawed they are and try to choke them out of societal importance.
@dotmavriq
The venture capitalists will soon realise that there is no profit to be made from investments in the technology.
@ilumium asking home owners for permission to take things would kill the burglary industry...

@ilumium This would be a more accurate metaphor if you changed it to "would kill the turning cotton into shit industry."

Because the slaves are producing art that the AI then shreds and turns into shit...and that's its product.

@ilumium I also know there are people who would love to pay a whole lot less for training time on AI's that use authorized training sets to actually help people with disabilities. So...yeah...

@ilumium Letting people take the weekend off would crash the economy. If we restrict working to only 8 hours a day no-one would be able to run a viable business. If gay people were allowed to marry it would destroy the family.

Same shit, different times. It's always bullshit and they know it.

@ilumium How about fuck you Nick Cleg! What someone needs to do is take these politicians' shit, their memoirs, their speeches, their interviews, train AI on them and mercilessly, but frivolously prank deep fake with them. What someone needs to do is use AI to show them how it feels to have your shit used in ways you wouldn't approve of or sanction. How about an AI clone of Cleg's voice used as a sonic brand for which he makes no money, preferably of a smart toilet.

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As we sarcastically say in Québécois French : "Bin oui, toué ! C'est donc bin triste pour l'IA !"

Translated in English, it would go like this : "Yeah right ! So sad for AI !"

@ilumium

As a thief, having to ask people before I rob their home would totally destroy my business model.

@ilumium I think the plantation owners insisted they be allowed to ask their former slaves there's a delightful clip somewhere of a reply being read out as a performance piece
@ilumium Sounds like a plan. If asking permission to "steal" / plagiarise creative content will kill the "AI" industry then "make it so". Though they'll need to be quick as the mega "AI" bubble is about to implode anyway.
@ilumium Then fucking perish
@ilumium And making efficient and less polluting cars would collapse the auto industry. Blah blah blah. Get over yourselves, techno AI slop peddlers.

@ilumium

Know what would really boost the bank robbery industry, decriminalizing bank robbery.

@ilumium If stopping stealing of people's creative output kills an industry, it's not an industry worth having.

I've had it with these bozos who keep telling we should love them for stealing our stuff.

@ilumium WTAF?!? WT(White Mother-loving) A Fuck?!?

@ilumium
If an industry can only survive by theft it's not an industry it's a crime ring.

#AI

@ilumium "Killing in the name of" --RATM

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Not out troying the torys would have ended my time in power says former tory, sorry libdem quisling, Nick Clegg.

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Looking at Nick Clegg always reminds me that a soul is a terrible thing to lose.

@ilumium ouufff. Taking someone's work against their will is wrong and deplorable but owning people (their bodies, minds, families, culture, ...) is WAY worse.
This is NOT a good comparison!
@gim It's not supposed to be a comparison. It's meant to show how generally dumb the argument "we need to keep doing this bad thing because otherwise our industry dies" is. Of course slavery is a lot worse than AI.

@ilumium doubling down on a shit take is obviously always an option 😮‍💨

not a good look for @edri btw.

@gim Sorry you feel that way but no need to lash out against my employer. This is my private account.
@ilumium it wasn't me who put their employer as the third word in their profile while downplaying slavery to make a related political point
@gim I was not "downplaying slavery" and I never would.

@ilumium

How Clegg ever had the nerve to call himself a Liberal is a genuine mystery.

@ilumium .. oh dear, how sad, never mind.
@ilumium also, I can't hear the name "Nick Clegg" without being reminded of this song from Will Varley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gqjffWg9as
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@ilumium i would rethink that comparison actually. i mean i think there are some significant differences that you don't have to be a supporter of AI to see.
@ilumium Maybe an industry that can't live without breaking the law deserves to die?
@ilumium cotton and AI are the fabrics of our lies.

@ilumium Asking artists for use permission would also kill the radio industry.

Specifics depend on the country, but directionally true.

@ilumium Clegg went over to the dark side when he propped up the Tories in government & broke his election pledge on student fees. He's the arch hypocrite's hypocrite.
@ilumium iirc, that argument was, in fact, made.
@ilumium He seems to have no problem with destroying the art industry