√𝛂𝛋𝛆feels foolish that I never remember it
SnokenKeekaGuardMy dictionary as a kid had a few guides and a map and I have not forgotten a single word off of them.
This was one.
Rhaedasit seems hard unless you use it a lot and then it's second nature. I've had to actually stop myself from using it in places like for a drive-thru pickup code, as that never goes well.
harsh3466I was using this to read put a gift card code to make a purchase over the phone with apple (don’t ask why, it was a shit show), and when I gave Sierra, the person thought it was C as in Ciara. Had to repeat the whole thing over again.
ScottI appreciate the Archer reference
ArghblargThat Morse code tidbit is actually super interesting. I’m curious how systematically they went with it, like E-I-S-H were the most common, and are ascending in dit counts. And then A being one dit and dash being the next most frequent. Or some combination of “values” for a dit/dash
I always liked this chart for Morse code:
I’m curious how systematically they went with it
Allow me to introduce you to Alfred Vail.
These guides always misspell Alfa
Alpha is confusing for not native English speakers, so it’s supposed to be spelt with an F.
At least they got Juliett correct. It’s two T’s to keep French speakers from mispronouncing it.
decipher_jeanneI mean as a french speaker I would have also added a e, so Juliette
But then I guess for everyone else it becomes Juliett/e/ or Juliettè
Non intellego. Romanus antiquus sum et alpha perfectum sensum mihi facit
Ad astra per ass.
The person installing the pattern clearly didn’t know Morse code and probably just thought it was a decorative pattern.
It’s upside-down.
Oh I assumed the problem was that it was too high to touch
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That “F” has an extra dot, too, no?
Axolotl_cppIt’s correct
Incorrect.
Alpha is the Greek letter.
Alfa is spelt this way in the phonetic alphabet to help with pronunciation in all countries, as 'ph' often makes a different sound.
You just argued against yourself.
“Alfa” in the context of the NATO phonetic alphabet (what this post is about) is correct.
I think the civvie version is easier for the average person. The military phonetics are just ‘odd’ enough that it is more of a chore to remember.
As a Swedish IT technician, I use two phonetic alphabets.
The Swedish phonetic alphabet was created in the 1890s and first published in 1902, in the 1960s a few entries were changed to reduce the risk of confusion.
A - Adam
B - Bertil
C - Cesar
D - David
E - Erik
F - Filip
G - Gustav
H - Helge
I - Ivar
J - Johan
K - Kalle
L - Ludvig
M - Martin
N - Niklas
O - Olle (air traffic communications), Olof (military use)
P - Petter
Q - Qvintus
R - Rudolf
S - Sigurd
T - Tore
U - Urban
V - Viktor
W - Wilhelm
X - Xerxes
Y - Yngve
Z - Zäta
Å - Åke
Ä - Ärlig
Ö - Östen
F as in Filip, then need G as in Geoffrey
Sterile_TechniqueFor something so commonly used, it’s got some pretty glaring flaws. Most critically, ‘golf’ and ‘mike’ - single syllable, which over radio comms often doesn’t sound like shit. Compare to something like ‘oscar’, which even if either half of it gets all staticky you still hear “osc–” or “–car” which is enough to still receive an accurate exchange of info.
My more whiny complaints are that the number of syllables are inconsistent, F and X use compound words instead of one single complete word which feels… icky… x gets a pass cuz x is always janky and x-ray is perfect. Some of the entries rhyme with commonly used words that could confuse someone who’s either inexperienced or in a stressful situation like being shot at. For example, “echo” could be misheard as “gecko” and even though “gecko” isn’t on the list, our brains do stupid shit when they’re saturated with adrenaline, so something like this should be as absolutely idiot-proof as possible.
If I could magic that fucker into something new, I’d shoot for:
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every entry is exactly three syllables.
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no two of the same syllables in any entry can rhyme with those two syllables of another entry. I.E., “Uniform” and “Chloroform” are not compatible because syllables 2 and 3 are too similar.
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Each entry should be as common a word as possible, in as low/unspecialized a reading level as possible. I.E., “November” is recognizable by nearly everyone; vs something like “Ganglia” which is gibberish to anyone without specialty knowledge requiring them to be familiar with ganglia.
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No compound or multiple word entries.
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X gets a pass cuz x is always janky and x-ray is perfect.
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Prototype phonetic alphabet must be first scrutinized by a panel consisting of a linguist, a speech pathologist, an English teacher, a 7 year old, a highschooler, a geriatric with severe hearing loss, and a junior enlisted US Marine. Their job is to find any potential for confusion.
Dharma Curious (he/him)Having a 7 year old and a junior enlisted US Marine seems redundant
I mean… someone has to supervise the Marine…
That’s fair. I’ve got enough marines in the family to know what happens when they’re left alone and get bored. Always best to have a more mature playmate with them.
I’ve got enough marines in the family to know what happens when they’re left alone and get bored.
The good crayons always go missing and there’s waxy buildup around their mouth.
Oh you’re so lucky their mouth is the only place your marines have stuck the crayons…
667In Amateur Radio, if our first calls are not received correctly, most experienced operators will switch up and use alternates for troublesome phonetics. America for Alpha, Germany for Golf, Kilowatt for Kilo. Some folks even use amusing ones. I once heard an American station using “Kentucky Fried Chicken” for their callsign ending in KFC.
MinnesotaGoddamI once heard an American station using “Kentucky Fried Chicken” for their callsign ending in KFC.
i mean that one is perfect
But with your new rules, x can be xylophone so you don’t need the special case rule for x anymore.
Ooh, good call!
I use a different phonetic alphabet:
Asshole
Ballsack
Cumdump
Dickwad
Ejaculate
Fuckface
Gooner
Hand-job
Incest
Jizz
Knob-gobbler
Lube
MILF
Nipples
Orgy
Pussy
Queef
Rim-job
Shithead
Titfuck
Urethra
Vagina
Wanker
X-rated
yuck. I will bully you off my line.
I bet you spend a lot of money.
squirrel
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