We did it: 🇩🇪Germany will OPPOSE Chat Control! 🥳

Thanks everyone for writing to the ministers. 🫶

#ChatControl will not get a majority in the EU Council - at least for now.

@Tutanota how can we make sure this doesn't come back again? It seems like this is the third time around or so.
@hmiron It will come back and we will have to fight it again.

@hmiron @Tutanota

I'd vote for groups that are explicitly against it. In Australia we've got our own internet tracking law, and, while there unfortunately aren't many parties explicitly opposing it, there are some.

@hmiron @Tutanota
You don't, that's privacy fights for you. They only have to win once, we have to win every time.
Rest for now, but be ready too step back up.
@hmiron @Tutanota it's a never-ending battle, really. Our job is to put pressure on our politicians and to educate other people so that they're aware of the issue.
@Tutanota phew. The fight will never be over, though.
@Tutanota 8 contre et 10 pour on a encore du boulot chez les indécis …
@Tutanota Now the goal for citizens of undecided/supportive countries is to make politicians understand why opposing chat control is a good idea. This needs to be buried once and for all.
@Tutanota They need to put a little finger into every FUCKING PIE! Can't leave enough alone, have to get into our lives...it's typical Swedish to advocate it!

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as a reminder for people worldwide, this just doesn't end here.

there will be new attempts and not limited to e.u.. preventing horrible laws is a long term process, not a single action.

We hope Italy goes green as well!

@Tutanota The Germans are cool in my books! #Germany
@d1 @Tutanota
they will decide on 14th. I don't trust our government to do the right thing.

@Tutanota "will oppose"

ill believe it when i see it.

@Tutanota Free Europe! This is our last hope, I'm not kidding!

As the rest of the world turns into authoritarian police state, opposing madness like this is how we save our continent!

How else are we supposed to attract the best talent, the best innovation & the best culture?

Do we want to be a bastion of freedom of expression, shining on the hill or not?

Or do we want to be an authoritarian shithole like the rest of them?

@Tutanota STUPID CROATIA 🤬🤬

@Tutanota

I am so fucking relieved!!!
I was anxious to evennooen up Mastodon in order to see hiw it is going.

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To everyone in the comments already painting the future black despite the good news and happiness and believe that hope is possible and something bad might have been avoided for now:

Guys,girls and rest,

not appreciating speckles of light and already catastrophysing and pushing down hope is exactly what helps facism and power-hungry people.
If they take away our hope and faith in a possible better wotld, they've won.
Hopelessness births apathy.

@Tutanota why Spain and Portugal are in favor of this?

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I thought Sweden had retaken Norway for a bit before I noticed Switzerland was not there too. Do people in Switzerland get swimming lessons?

@doctorwhom @Tutanota
Although Switzerland has certain ties to the European Union, they are not a member state. Therefore they don't get a vote on this and other EU laws.
@Tutanota what is this chat control can anyone explain is this some new law on communication and if tuta opposes it then it might be against privacy of users as far I could understand
@carbon5327 @Tutanota basicly the goverment can and will scan everyone's chats to supposedly avoid any type of CSAM distribution

@carbon5327 @Tutanota It would make it obligatory for encrypted communication tools like Signal and WhatsApp to scan every message before transmission, and if suspected CSAM (child sexual abuse material) is found, send a copy to the police. This circumvents message encryption, which only protects your privacy when the message is in transit. Yes, a 'back door', and those tend to fall into the wrong hands.

Note BTW that when you use a smart phone with Signal, you have a large attack surface exposed to the Internet: every app might be breached and private material on the physical device exposed pre-encryption. The only solution to that is using a dedicated device on a dedicated network, only for authorized users. Pete Hegseth found that out the hard way. Still, Signal offers the best security possible when you're stuck using a smart Internet phone.

I have sometimes thought that someone should produce a cheap dedicated, hardened Signal phone containing only Signal, the Internet mobile telephony stack, and a camera. The thing to take to protests, or for investigative journalists.

@Tutanota By Alexandra Geese, German MEP: "This success shows that public pressure and a strong civil society work!

But: Our chats will only be safe once the federal government has clearly taken a position and the vote in the Council has been officially scheduled for next week. And one thing is also clear: There will be a next proposal.

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"That's why it's worth writing emails and calling members of parliament again to make sure that random chat monitoring really won't happen, now or in the future. The federal government must take a clear and fundamental stance against client-side scanning."

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@Tutanota KEEP THE EMAILS AND THE CALLS!

"There are also indications that the vote in the Council on this will be postponed indefinitely.

For a long time, it looked as if Germany, at the urging of the CDU/CSU, would shift to the camp of chat control advocates. But thousands upon thousands of emails from citizens and associations, petitions and phone calls, webinars (like ours last week ), and events have been successful . Thanks to everyone who got involved!"

@Tutanota I wrote them and from one i got a rather short message

> vielen Dank für Ihre Nachricht und dass Sie sich mit Ihren Sorgen an mich gewandt haben. Bitte sehen Sie es mir nach, wenn ich Ihnen keine individuell formulierte Antwort sende, da ich zum Thema Chatkontrolle in den vergangenen beiden Tagen über 150 E-Mails erhalten habe. Dementsprechend nehme ich das Anliegen ernst.

translated thats about
thanks for mailing me, [...] please excuse my brief/generic answer, i have recieved about 150 messages in the last 2 days

@Tutanota the vote is suppose to be on the 14th of October, right? are we really sure?... just asking
@Tutanota Uf, people should use Matrix or SimpleX instead of that crap WhatsApp or Telegram.
@Tutanota by now this is not true. Only one politician said so and it has yet to be decided in a voting today.
@Tutanota
Do you have a source for this?