@coop I'm searching for a succinct message to put on a poster for the October 18th "No Kings" march, and "fuck you, make me" may well be it.
@coop As a non native speaker I'm wondering about the exact translation. Could someone help me out here? ๐Ÿ˜…
@sir_toootenstein @coop "Do not comply in advance" implies "but it's ok to comply later". "Fuck you, make me" (which comes from something Jon Oliver said recently on the This Week Tonight TV show) asserts "I'm not doing that unless you have enough strength and the will to force me, and even then I'm fighting back". Also, an underlying implication of FY,MM is that we know they're likely too lazy/cowardly to force us to do most of the things they threaten.
@sstrader @coop thank you. I've seen the episode with Jon Oliver and I didn't get the joke ๐Ÿ˜…

@sir_toootenstein @coop
"Do not comply in advance" is common advice when it comes to how to deal with fascists. The idea in *theory* is that you aren't supposed to change what you're doing or saying to please fascists until you're forced to, but its use in practice has several problems, not least of which is the implication that it's fine to comply at some unspecified later date, without making clear that the "later date" shouldn't be until there's a gun held to your head at the earliest.

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@sir_toootenstein @coop
By contrast, "fuck you, make me" is an insult directed at fascists and a dare that they *force* you to comply via the aforementioned gun to the head (which many assume not every fascist enforcer has the guts for). Instead of merely chiding people to not be passively complicit, encouraging people to say "fuck you, make me" is encouraging active resistance, which by implication also suggests that one not be passively complicit either.

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The last point, especially. "Fuck you! Make me!" is a great chant, especially when the cops get on the bullhorn and try to order people around.

@Mikal @coop
Punctuation would be important in a chant, otherwise you get "make me fuck you" instead.
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โ€œFuck You; Make Meโ€
โœ… Correct use of semicolon
โœ… Not a run-on sentence
โœ… Yes, Iโ€™m a pedantic asshole