trogSep 30
Voline
"Whoever forbids Antifa, wants fascism! Make Antifa Great Again!" - Banner held by Bayern Munich fans on Friday, right behind the goal, so guaranteed to be in the broadcast worldwide.
Sep 28 at 8:27amWeb
Show threadkontrollierterWahnwitzSep 28

@Voline Unluckily, large parts of the German left do not see football fans as a possible ally. You have to remember that Ulras helped bringing the Arabian spring to the streets and protested against Erdogan.

We are not in the 80s and 90s anymore with their Hooliganism.

Show threadklarnebelSep 28
@kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline I disagree. It wholly depends on the fans themselves. St. Pauli for example is a club whose fans and ultras are staunch anti-fascists and that is noticed by the political left in Germany.
The problem lies more in the perception of „ultras“ in general. Politicians won’t touch that, because they don’t want to be associated with „hooligans“ and other „violent“ football fans.
And in the general population, that picture still remains.
Show threadzahlenzauber*in Sep 28

@kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline

In the city I live in hooliganism is still strong and ultra groups are decididly on the far right and proud if it. I hope its different elsewhere.

Show threadTheTrabiSep 28

@kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline
Also - which other large social group takes a stand this loud and clear ? Where is the "Aufschrei" ?

Cannot stand their club at all - but absolutely respecting the "Schickeria" Ultragroup, not only for this statement 👏 ✊

Show threadhalSep 28
@kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline Depends on the club....
Best example (to my knowledge) FCSP vs Dynamo Dresden...
Show threadElectric Monk (Benjamin)Sep 28
@sequundi @kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline Eastern German clubs in general…
Show threadJaneraTicianoSep 28
@kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline uhm. Do you live in Munich? Because here, the left very much has been working with football fans for a long time - Löwenfans gegen Rechts is a well known group locally. FC Bayern fans on the whole are less political (and more drunk dumb opportunists, since it's not like they had to support a loosing team for decades), but as seen above Schickeria is not tolerating fascists in their midst, either.
Since the 90s, when nazis tried recruiting
Show threadJaneraTicianoSep 28
@kontrollierterWahnwitz @Voline football fans en masse, there has been left resistance to that. But it's also a fact that football fans aren't that interested in politics aside from not being persecuted by police for their existence.
Show threadDave FreedmanSep 28
@Voline
My dad was antifa. He served in the U.S. Navy 4 years in World War II, on a destroyer (USS Coghlan) in the Pacific.
Show threadNatSep 28

@Voline

I know there are tons of issues in Germany and the EU, but God damn, am I happy to be here versus in the US right now.

Show threadΩ 🌍 Gus PoseySep 28

@simplyxtata Being in the US feels like being swallowed by an enormous spider.

Enjoy your sensible nations.

Show threadNatSep 28
@Gustodon I'm a US citizen and seeing this all go down is utterly depressing. I'm trying not to give up hope but so far Europe has been very welcoming to me versus my own country.
Show threadΩ 🌍 Gus PoseySep 28
@simplyxtata I'm glad to hear it. Well-played.
Show threadDreySep 28
@Voline - HEROES
Show threadThierry Van KermSep 28
@Voline Respect to each and all of them! That's great and should be an example for all the football/soccer fans around the world
Show threadhonzeSep 28
@Voline Stabil!
Show threadKerplunkSep 28

@Voline

We should not forget that there have been some very serious, presumably motivated sentences made against persons who protested against the far right.

One case is really weird. 9 years with accusations up to attempted murder, far right thugs claiming to have been seriously injured.

https://taz.de/Prozesswelle-gegen-Antifas/!6116034/

A wave of processes against antifaschists.

Prozesswelle gegen Antifas: „Ein klarer Versuch der Einschüchterung“

Die linke Szene kritisiert die fünfjährige Haftstrafe für die Antifaschistin Hanna S. scharf. In Kürze starten bereits zwei weitere Prozesse.

TAZ Verlags- und Vertriebs GmbH
Show threadRobin BartonSep 28
@Voline It seems that the world does not want to go quietly into that Fascist good night
Show threadGreen HombreSep 28
@Voline
A friend in Bavaria joked we could move there from the USA because they have fewer Nazi than we do.
Show threadEstarriol, Terrorist DragonSep 28

@Voline

watch as trump bans soccer

Show threadlovely_Natur+KulturSep 28
@Voline
Okay,
wenn das echt ist, dann ist das mit Abstand das Beste, was ich je von Bayern München-Fans gesehen und gehört habe! 🏆