Theis_m

Are we addicted to American payment providers?

I recently switched to #grapheneos and so far my experience has been great. Knowing my exposure to Google's services has been reduced.

However, today I forgot my wallet. Normally this would not be a problem as I would use my phone. But because of Google's arbitrary restrictions on running Google Wallet on custom android operating systems, was this no option.

This led me to search for #eu alternatives to #BigTech NFC payments.
Is there any? (DA)

Sep 19, 2025 at 1:04pmWeb
Show threadNickSep 19, 2025
@Theis_m I don't use it, but I've read that Curve works for contactless payments on GrapheneOS. I don't know if it works in the EU, though.
https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2025/06/contactless-payments-with-grapheneos/
Contactless Payments with GrapheneOS

Google's monopolistic stranglehold on Android results in poor experience for power-users, and artificially restricts choice for those who have older phones. For example, Google Wallet is the de facto way to use NFC payments on Android. There's one problem though - it only works with Google's Android. If you have the temerity to install a 3rd party Android OS - like the hyper-secure GrapheneOS - …

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Show threadTheis_mSep 19, 2025
@internic
Thank you i will definitely, look into it :)
Show threadMoritz Poldrack Sep 21, 2025
@internic @Theis_m Good to know when setting up a curve account: you can't use all email addresses you want. When I try signing up with my [email protected], I get this screen. Using a Gmail address fixes that. Changing it later is not working either.
Show threadNickSep 21, 2025
@mpldr @Theis_m Well that's both odd and troubling. I wonder what else would be rejected or accepted. It would be unfortunate if they only accept the few most major email services.
Show threadTheis_mSep 21, 2025
@internic @mpldr
A little update: I managed to create an account with a proton.me mail, without any problem.
Show threadR.Sep 19, 2025
@Theis_m i’m following. I’m in the same situation. Hope someone know!
Show threadtranquil_cassowarySep 20, 2025
@domanipagani @Theis_m
https://infosec.exchange/@tranquil_cassowary/115236867551943260
tranquil_cassowary (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Wallet itself works. Only tap-to-pay within Wallet doesn't because of Play Integrity enforcement. Solutions could be Curve, PayPal tap-to-pay, NFC and QR code solutions embedded in bank apps (common in Europe), payment apps from card issuers (e.g. PayConiq by Bancontact), Garmin Pay on a Garmin smartwatch, ...

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Show threadtranquil_cassowarySep 20, 2025
@Theis_m
Wallet itself works. Only tap-to-pay within Wallet doesn't because of Play Integrity enforcement. Solutions could be Curve, PayPal tap-to-pay, NFC and QR code solutions embedded in bank apps (common in Europe), payment apps from card issuers (e.g. PayConiq by Bancontact), Garmin Pay on a Garmin smartwatch, ...