Lesley Carhart 
These conservative galaxy brains saying we should just pull American troops out of South Korea so that they’re destroyed by North Korea in retribution for sanctions, and think they’re brilliant military strategists without considering -what would happen next-… 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♂️🤦🙈🙄
Yes, America, famous for taking military actions with no secondary motivations.
I saw some dude bragging he was super smart for knowing we are participating in the defense of South Korea because he -took a class at a War College-. They should have taped him to a chair for the 200 level.
Aren’t these people supposed to like war games? Go get your board out and see what happens when you suddenly completely destabilize a key strategic, economic, and logistical ally and staging point in an otherwise mostly unfriendly region with spiderweb politics. I’ll wait.
jaark@hacks4pancakes You are maybe expecting these people to be able to think about anything other than the immediate short term effects.
Big problem with the world is that very few in politics seem to be able or willing to think or plan long-term either right now.
Big problem with the world is that very few in politics seem to be able or willing to think or plan long-term either right now.
Tindra@hacks4pancakes *stares in “DoD has been obsessed with a pivot to the Pacific for at least five years now”*
Momo@hacks4pancakes
Too complicated. All they know is battlefield strategies. Take that tank there, block these entrances, create a choke point, snipers on elevated positions.
...and nobody walks into this well designed trap. Well, to bad, but here is an B for efford. Next time leave the tanks out, create the blockage in the last second with explosives and then sprinkle some landmines on top to show that you mean business...
(no, please don't)
Colman Reilly@hacks4pancakes I know that and my military expertise is all based on space elves.
Faraiwe@hacks4pancakes sigh.
War college has always been a dumpster fire of idiocy and so has west point.
The whole of it.
@faraiwe I mean I took a couple good AWC classes but it’s a strange place
@hacks4pancakes because of what I do/did, in both academia and uniform, I was taking grad classes along peeps attending war college, at a external entity, a INR dept at a university.
They were hardly catching up, and astonished at the "deepestesth cuts" of knowledge being dished out at 5xxx level classes.
My other experiences, besides AWC, dealing with west pointers has NOT improved my views on the matter.
Those institutions need razed, are beyond any saving prospects. All caveats here.
@hacks4pancakes I may be a bit bitter about it.
DROP\ TABLE Hacker of Earthsea@hacks4pancakes cause the first step in alliance is building mistrust and abusing the other party. because friends hurt eachother XD
rk: it’s hyphen-minus actuallyThe problem with the concepts of “soft power”, “spheres of influence”, and “strategic alliances” is that they all are relatively complex topics with lots of nuance and when you’re stupid and jingoistic you have trouble with nuance and complexity.
@rk I mean losing even part of South Korea to a rogue isolationist nuclear state would have pretty hard military consequences too.
Konstantin Weddige@hacks4pancakes @rk not if you believe that tariffs make everything cheaper and don't care for human lives outside (or inside, but that's only relevant if you believe in consequences) of the US. Because then you can perfectly pretend nothing even happened.
Ashe Dryden 🙆🏼♀️🐈🐈⬛@hacks4pancakes America, also famous for not considering the ramifications of its actions lol
Fear and Tooting in Las Vegas@hacks4pancakes Have you ever wondered what would happen if foreign policy was conducted by LEEEEEEEEEROY JENKINS......?
Nicole ParsonsHistorian S.C.M Paine of the Naval College is fascinating as she describes US "half court tennis" strategy
1. Tax evading billionaires cause financial crash in 1929
2. To evade consequences, self-defeating austerity measures & the Smoot-Hawley tariffs
3. Global recession & international trade collapse
4. Spate of empire building & militaristic fascist dictatorships form
5. Which triggers WW2.
Trump, Rockbridge & Koch Networks, & the fossil fuel industry making history repeat
HTTP 1.1/418 Teapot@hacks4pancakes So, kinda like the galaxy-brains who thought 1. it would be great for ICE to raid the factory and send all the Korean folks for an extended trip to ICE-land with all the awesome features, and 2. the US could just say "oopsie! come on back it'll be fine this time, no really"
Coldforge@hacks4pancakes tbf "without considering -what would happen next-" is pretty much the modern Republican default
estelle@hacks4pancakes "did nvidia finish moving their fabs to domestic production"
*googles* *reads tsmc news releases*
oh, nope
...oh
wanna try it? so long, sam altman
💀 𝓕airchild 💀@hacks4pancakes And they all claim to be 'good Christians', but instead of admiring Nice Guy Jesus, what they really really want is Vengeful Old Testament God smiting their perceived enemies. Punishing others is their kink.
Stephen Collins@hacks4pancakes consequences be damned, apparently. No concern about either China or Russia.
Martin Boller 
@hacks4pancakes I knew that stupid is forever, but not that it was THAT contagious. MAGA == brain eating worm?
Dave Wilburn 
Yep. Take a look at all of the videos of American farmers who are crying because Trump fulfilled his campaign promises to them: rounding up their immigrant labor force into camps or driving them into hiding, destroying their export markets through trade wars and intentionally wrecking America's brand, and driving up the costs of their machinery, parts, and supplies. The vast majority of American farmers voted for their own destruction. Knowing their willingness to hurt themselves, do you think any of these morons would hesitate for even one second before hurting foreigners?
mkb@hacks4pancakes That seeme like a good portion of the problem with these chuckleheads. They don’t think in terms of systems and n-th order effects.
Simon ZerafaI doubt that South Korea would go willingly. Possibly end with the North using atomics? 😟
mastodonphan HAS MOVED@hacks4pancakes But I thought Daddy Twump twoothed out dat he wanted other countries to send their workers here so they could strengthen the great motherland blah blah blah.
These motherfuckers flip more than a pancake cooked on a catapult, gahdamn.