So, so tired of cop shows. I want a series about three generations of an activist family. The grandparents were part of the anti-war/civil rights movement in the 60s. One of their kids is a slightly conservative gay corporate lawyer, the other manages a community center, and her kid is a trans college activist who's angry all the time. Throw in friends (and enemies) for all three generations, and start filming.

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I still have a nostalgic fondness for Citizen Smith.

@iaruffell @gvwilson Alas, Citizen Smith can be contextualized today as crude right-wing propaganda from back in the day when we weren't used to them weaponizing humour.

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There are elements, and it has dated too. Its tothachingly awful depiction of middle-class suburbia is painfully spot-on, though. Wolfie is not always the butt. It's more complex than some of its peers.

@gvwilson I call a lot of it copaganda.

I like the idea of a show about activism.

@gvwilson did you try the remake of One Day At A Time? That ticked a lot of those boxes, but COVID killed the show. Still, a pretty good watch.
@gvwilson Check out The Madness on Netflix if you haven't already. It's kinda not far off this brilliant idea...
@gvwilson Uh, it is also kinda totally different but similar sentiment...
@freequaybuoy @gvwilson I checked out and it appears I already watched it, it reminisced and yes, that’s that kind of stuff. Maybe a rewatch later this fall.
@Vive_Levant @gvwilson Finished it last night - it was masterful.
@gvwilson the show Years and Years might be up your alley then:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8694364/
Years and Years (TV Mini Series 2019) ⭐ 8.3 | Drama, Sci-Fi

1h | TV-MA

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@demon6 I enjoyed Years & Years, but I want something with the same local-to-a-city flavor as most cop and hospital dramas. I'm fussy :-)

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I think people watch cop shows and murder mysteries in part because of their familiar patterns. Medical and fire/EMS dramas are basically extensions of cop shows. Easy to write and film, constantly underlining the status quo.

I feel like we need some upgraded story paradigms.

@forpeterssake @gvwilson a new paradigm might be to jettison TV shows altogether (on all devices and platforms) and use the time to read books or volunteer in the community. I have not watched any TV at all since early 1990s and my life is rich and rewarding.

@patrascan I'm glad that works for you!

TV helped me learn to read before I started going to school (via captioning use by Deaf family members) & my Deaf parent used it to help combat loneliness in areas without a strong Deaf community.

I usually have the TV on as background noise when reading, it seems to help me focus somehow. I blame my 'tism for that, lol.

I like the idea of "all things in moderation, including moderation" myself.

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I tend to favor reading over watching, but television is such a compelling and powerful storytelling medium, I'm not surprised people gravitate toward it. From a societal perspective, I think we ignore its power and abilities at our own peril.
@forpeterssake @RamenCatholic @gvwilson you make some very good points, Pete, especially the power of visual storytelling. What often puzzles me are complaints about the poor quality of TV shows or the ubiquity of gratuitous violence when watchhing TV is, after all, a voluntary activity people choose to engage with.
@forpeterssake @gvwilson You can do the same kind of "how are they going to solve it this time" with a lower-class family struggling with their regular problems.
@gvwilson @ritawho I would definitely watch it. Makes me thing of a book called The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao, with a similar generational structure and social struggle, and in a minor capacity an Italian tv series that starts in the 60s and ends in the 2000s called The Best of Youth https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346336/
The Best of Youth (2003) ⭐ 8.4 | Drama, Romance

6h 14m | R

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@gvwilson how about a heist-of-the-week series loosely based on The Monkey Wrench Gang about an expert team of environmental activists who travel the globe sabotaging coal-fired power plants, disabling oil tankers, and blowing up dams.

What? Too spicy?

@jacob Ocean's Eleven but Danny Ocean's wife and kid were killed by a hurricane and now he's out to save other people's kids the only way he knows how…
@gvwilson That is an awesome concept. I do local TV so I can't quite swing it but I see a lot of potential.

That sound dope af! I would watch the hell out of it!

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> So, so tired of cop shows. I want a series about three generations of an activist family

I remember being really disappointed with the remake of V (2009-2012) for this reason. The original V was an ensemble piece about freedom fighters, whereas the remake turned that into a lone hero story about a cop. I gave up after a few episodes.

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@gvwilson The soup kitchen where everybody knows your name
@gvwilson I think the only thing that's missing is that it needs to be animation, and this would be a wild show. It would be totally worth the watch.

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Cop shows are a type of influence peddling.

They tell soothing fables about budget-constrained, sloppily trained, & angry-at-the-world people.

It tells lies about 'dedicated professionals willing to go the extra mile', 'getting to the truth", & the "bad guy always gets punished".

Don't get me started on the social consequences of the romance genre & their unrealistic perceptions on human relationships.

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Hell, Trump is still mentally living in the Starsky & Hutch version of the "inner city."

@Npars01 @gvwilson yes! And almost all of them have examples of cops breaking the law, violating policy, and/or violating the rights of the suspects…. But they excuse the behavior as necessary and justified, and the other cops simply cover up these blue crimes.

The show is always written with the theme of “yea they bend the rules but it’s ok, we’re the good guys”.

It’s all Copaganda.

@gvwilson I would watch the heck out of that show

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Please - no TV Monkey Wrench. That book was a big influence on me at one point. Got to spend several years wondering around that country. Ran into a couple of folks that the characters came from. Seeing that book on my shelf reminds me that at one point I planned on being a better person.

I'll stick with Finnish Nordic Noir. A character flawed cop crawling in and out of a bottle of vodka. Trying to raise a kid and track down a psychedelic tinged serial killer in perpetual night. That's escape.

#southwest #finland

@gvwilson with a flashback episode about the great-uncle who went to Spain in '36, natch
@gvwilson How about a show based on the real life International Rescue organisation. But using the theme music from the old Gerry Anderson puppet show. Mainly because they were allowed to use the fictional organisation's logo.
@gvwilson I want a funny show set around a post office crew. All the wild and whacky hijinks as they try to ensure everyone’s package and letter gets to them.
Shelved (TV Series 2023) ⭐ 5.6 | Comedy

Shelved: Created by Anthony Q. Farrell. With Lyndie Greenwood, Chris Sandiford, Dakota Ray Hebert, Paul Braunstein. Follows the employees and patrons of Jameson Public Library as they go about their lives in this unassuming and extraordinary place

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@gvwilson @Hoi_Pollois I’d watch the heck out of that show.

@gvwilson so a family ties reboot updated to modernity with an extra generation from Maude or golden girls?

I'd probably watch it.

@gvwilson I've been waiting for that for years. Also if we're going to have security, ditch all the cop/detective shows and get David Hare to extend the Worricker trilogy. I'd rather have spies who defy Blair than any more copaganda
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Retired cop twat goes off the rails after his pet hamster is kidnapped. Can he solve it's whereabouts over 36 episodes in the face of state complicity before the deadline of having his pet soulmate dipped in batter and deep-fried. Almost directed by a brain-dead nobody. 🫣
@gvwilson It's significant what the media DOESN'T show us. In place of stock tickers, I want scrolling texts that report recycling rates, solar and wind power output, tree cover, and the availability of healthy food and water.
@gvwilson not exactly that line, but I can assure you that, back in the days, either the US show The L World than the Canadian Godiva’s were bearing a similarly positive spirit.

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Please, please take a look at Queen Sugar!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Sugar

Queen Sugar - Wikipedia

@gvwilson I'd watch the heck out of that ...
@gvwilson I mean, this should do pretty well against the main product of Trump's "golden age of Hollywood" which will be an ICE franchise which repeats the same storylines of kidnapping brown people who are terrorists because they have tattoos or wear hats or maybe perform in drag and fighting scary "far left" Black mayors in a bunch of different cities. Since ICE agents don't show their faces, they won't even need actors, it'll all be AI generated.
@gvwilson You're looking for Alison Bechdel's Dykes to watch out for comics! 20 years of activism chronicled with the best sense of humor
@gvwilson Star Wars: Rebels is the only show I could think of like that, but it’s more of a blended “family” and the activism isn’t peaceful.
@gvwilson @thekitmalone I cannot wait for the Christmas Carol episode!