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🕑 EU Citizens have 4 days: the clock is ticking!

European countries are finalizing their positions on Chat Control this Friday. If your country supports Chat Control, it is vital you contact your representatives and voice your opposition to the EU's latest surveillance and censorship tactic. 🇪🇺

The latest from staff writer Em: https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2025/09/08/chat-control-must-be-stopped/

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Sep 8, 2025 at 6:01pmWeb
Show threadCelinhoSep 8, 2025
@privacyguides Can anyone list the green countries? I am not from the European Union.
Show threadLukefromDCSep 8, 2025

@privacyguides I can guarantee that the effectiveness of Chat Control on the supposedly intended targets will be exactly zero.

Unapproved apps (such as Signal will be) run through Tor won't be easily stopped. Ask China, Russia, and Iran about that arms race. Device-based monitoring won't work on any existing device with updates blocked.

A pair of Graphene phones transmitting video over Tor of say, a cop getting his ass kicked at a pro-Palestine protest in Berlin or Paris would be entirely immune to this attack.

Even if "unapprovred" devices were blockrd from the Internet (the 20 year old "trusted computing" model), they could be tethered to "apprioved" devices such as wifi hotspots that do not decrypt tethered data and thus cannot monitor it.

Why do I focus on this? Defense in depth. No guarantees in any legislature or court, and I favor a "zero voluntary compliance" model. First they have to get past anti-Chat Control activism, which is a maybe. Even if they take that trench there is another one ready for the fight right behind it.

Show threadWulfy—Speaker to the machinesSep 9, 2025

@LukefromDC @privacyguides

Congratulations.
Bypass == Criminal

Show threadLukefromDCSep 9, 2025

@n_dimension @privacyguides

I speak from the perspective of an active opponent of a repressive regime, that of neo-Nazi Donald Trump and his MAGA meatheads. To me, any cracks in the security of encryption would let in what I consider enemy spies.

The true purpose of all control of communications anywhere is an attempt to give governments an advantage over the people, expecially political opponents. This has nothing whatsoever to do with "save the children" and everything to do with putting anti-Fascist, anti-fossil fuel/pro climate, and pro-Palestine activists in prison.

NO QUARTER for chat control, key disclosure, "lawful intercept" whatever they want to call it. None asked, none given. Just utter, absolute refusal to use any compliant device for any purpose. Whatever it takes, and no half measures.

Even if they took down the entire Internet and replaced it with say "ShopperNet" usable only for approved purposes, ANY kind of media can still be distributed person to person on flash drives.

They want to ban this too? It will take over 20 years for the supply of noncompliant computers and storage devices to die of electromigration. By that time none of the politicians pushing such a law will still be in office to reap the alleged benefits.

Any device in my possession with Chat Control's potential US equivalent baked in would go straight into the trash, after being smashed with a hammer of course to prevent data recovery. Of course Google would have a hard time pushing it to a phone not running Google Play Services with Google itself blocked at the device level.

I oppose their OBJECTIVES with Chat Control, not just their methods

Show threadPiranhallamaSep 9, 2025
@privacyguides I'm surprised to see Estonia aren't against it entirely. They might vote against but still being undecided? Wow.
Show threadtyilSep 9, 2025
@privacyguides The European people need to start holding these corrupt and self-serving politicians accountable. They will continue to introduce laws that contradict basic human rights if we do not. We must fight them in every way possible, including physical if we get the chance. Make the politicians in favor of chat control regret their decisions deeply. Make them pay in a way that will make them fear the people they're supposed to represent.
Show threadAndrej SpiridonovSep 9, 2025
@privacyguides EU starts to really look like USSR
Show threadWatchful CitizenSep 9, 2025
@privacyguides this makes me so angry! I don't want a world like that for my children
Show threadconfettiarenasabotageSep 9, 2025
@watchfulcitizen @privacyguides i don't understand why are we representing this per country? Elected of every countries are from different political sides, they are member of European parties/groups/alliances and each one vote separately, right? Isn't it more something like this party vs this one?
Show threadWatchful CitizenSep 9, 2025

@Canning1452 @privacyguides In Parliament it’s party groups, but this vote is in the Council of the EU.

There each country’s government casts one vote, not individual parties.

Show threadFerda 😻Sep 9, 2025

Poslal jsem 25.8. e-mail (doporučený text v češtině) všem našim zástupcům v Evropském parlamentu. Zatím mi přišla (29.8.) jen 1 "strojová" odpověď 😬🙄:

Vážený pane/Vážená paní,

děkujeme Vám, že jste si udělal/a čas a podělil/a se s námi o své obavy ohledně návrhu Chat Control. Opravdu si vážíme názorů občanů, kterým záleží na ochraně základních práv a svobod.

Ujišťujeme Vás, že sdílíme Vaše obavy. Rozhodně se stavíme proti jakýmkoli opatřením, která by ohrozila právo na soukromí, hromadnému sledování nebo nediferencovanému monitorování osobní komunikace. Obecně jsme proti narušování soukromí, které vnímáme jako analogické k listovnímu tajemství – tradičnímu a základnímu právu. Ochrana individuálních svobod je pro nás klíčovou prioritou a budeme hlasovat proti návrhu v jeho současné podobě.

S pozdravem,

Ondřej Dostál

Show threadPanayotis YannakasSep 21

@privacyguides Sharing for Greek speakers: my 2023 piece on #ChatControl covers risks to private messaging, the impact on encryption, etc.

Link:

https://blog.yannakas.me/2023/06/stop-scanning-me/