2005: Your website looks like it was designed by a 3-year-old and barely works, this can't be a trustworthy source of information

2025: Your website looks like it was designed by a 3-year-old and barely works, this is the last bastion of truth on the Internet

@drmorr Ah, now I understand the design aesthetic of the ACRL blog... 😝

You have to stop posting things that make these cheap shots so easy! Haha.

Although, and I am not sure whether this is positive or a bleak reflection of the current zeitgeist, ACRL is indeed one of the last bastions of trustworthy information on the Internet. Some of the best and finest information around!

@drmorr i think the people who i trust to provide the best technical documentation and discussion all have webpages with very little or even zero CSS styling
@rudi @drmorr I mean that's cause they're systems or back end. Tbh if I was looking for front end wisdom I'd probably accept that something snappy with almost pure HTML and CSS is a good source
@rudi @drmorr I knew the laziness that prevented me from ever writing a decent CSS for my documentation would pay off eventually!
@rudi @drmorr and persomable websites with a variety of pages. sure, I may have come for technical documentation on this API or programming language, but I'm not gonna turn down a free photoblog of your dog
@patterfloof @rudi brb gonna go add some dogs to my website now
@rudi @drmorr That would be my site.
@drmorr awwww thanks for the compliment 😂
@drmorr we've entered a new historical era. All human information after 2022 has to be assumed to be tainted by GenAI and subject to enshitification. We are now in the crapocene.
@guigsy @drmorr Every photo or video after 2017 may be manipulated and can't be trusted either
@delawen @drmorr Dall-e was probably the first popular transformer based image generator. That didn't appear until 2021, and it was limited to 256x256 images, often with far too many fingers and teeth. Plausible fakes didn't appear until later. And generated video is only just about doable this year (see Will Smith's spaghetti).

@guigsy @drmorr But faked photos and videos "by professionals" were indistinguishable earlier. Estimated (not by me) to have a breaking point around 2017

The term deepfake dates back to that year for a reason https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepfake

Can't find quickly the article that made that estimation.

Deepfake - Wikipedia

@delawen @drmorr CGI and Photoshop have been realistic and feasible for a couple of decades. The issue is that it required a bit of skill. So the volume of deceiving images was relatively small. Whereas genAI can fake with a text prompt in minutes.
@guigsy @drmorr There is a difference between realistic and undistinguishable. That's where deepfakes enter.
@guigsy @drmorr when I’m really concerned about accuracy I use DuckDuckGo’s date range feature to exclude results newer than 2022
@woltiv I never thought of using dates for image search, thanks!
@guigsy @drmorr I recently saw a fun retrospective type of theory. The reason why characters in Star Trek are so inexplicably keen on art and culture from the 20th century and earlier, is because after the coming of generative AI, that was the end for anything actually worthwhile in the way of creative work. Nothing worth remembering was created after that.

@beecycling @guigsy that's not true.

humans are still creating unique and interesting art. it's just surrounded by an ocean of shit.
just like humans are still creating websites by editing HTML files today. you just rarely find them if you're not explicitly looking for them.

@c3manu @beecycling The issue is going to be that art will pay even less. And be harder to become recognised amongst the derge. And when it is recognised, it'll be AI copied. If artists struggled before, it'll be many times harder to carve out an existence now.
@guigsy @beecycling that sounds like a way smaller problem to me than humans stopping to create worthwile art.
@c3manu @beecycling it'll stop the majority of humans from creating worthwhile art. That's pretty bad.
@guigsy @beecycling the majority of humans is arguably not creating any art at all. but i agree it's an additional incentive i probably didn't consider enough yet.
@drmorr in a world where everything is presumed to be fake or ai generated I think this is the effect of humans becoming more drawn to authenticity instead of polished crap. I like it

@drmorr

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Real truth never comes on a WEBSITE, it comes in the middle of an infinite scroll of random people curated by AI!

@drmorr

Bring back GeoCities and HotDog …But you can leave ColdFusion and Flash in the rubbish bin.
@ferricoxide there's a new version of geocities called neocities!
@lalah

Heh. Why not: fuckery in the streaming media space has led to a resurgence in piracy, so, may as well bring back everything that predated the Zuckerbergs of the world.
@drmorr To be fair, most of the sites I trust do work pretty well because they're not crippled by a massively bloated framework and wasting precious resources gathering every iota of personal data on me they possibly can.
https://tassoman.com it does, seriously.
Tassoman Pigi

My personal vintage homepage

@tassoman the cat page is awesome! 

@drmorr

@drmorr In 2005 some of us were still too young and ignorant to understand that these blasted techbros wanted to control the entire Internet.
@drmorr Plot twist: it's the same website, by the same author. Author got older and is now at a University, and is the only one in her class actually studying the subjects instead of relying on chatGPT to give her the answers.
@dryak corporate needs you to find the difference between these websites
@drmorr Alternatively:
2025: Your website looks like it was designed by a highly paid design team of top notch web designers and therefore barely works, but that's not a problem as it contains no information.
Motherfucking Website

@RandamuMaki @drmorr seems you don’t know about the https://bestestmotherfucking.website/ created by @vantablack
It’s pretty fun :3
the bestest motherfucking website

@techie @drmorr @vantablack It's glorious... I'm awestruck.
@RandamuMaki @techie @drmorr @vantablack Wow, that triggered geocities PTSD flashbacks.
scriptjunkie (@sj@social.scriptjunkie.us)

Attached: 1 image PHP

Scriptjunkie Social
@drmorr Was recently looking for a multimeter and stumbled upon this site: https://lygte-info.dk/info/DMMReviews.html Which would probably fit that description well.
Index of reviewed multimeters table

@drmorr 2025: Even KI can do better today ... so your site may actually be authentic 😉
@drmorr See also: "Prof. Dr. Style" of web design. https://contemporary-home-computing.org/prof-dr-style/
Prof. Dr. Style

It is difficult to estimate how many web pages created in 1993-1994 made it into the new millenium in their premordial way. If you manage to find something that was put online that time, it would in the best case display a 1995-1996 skin. But there is a way to find pages that live for ever in 1993.

@drmorr The lower the amount of JavaScript, the easier it is to archive and track changes over time. Ideally, all important information is linked to via static web pages.