I like this, but I have never made such a spherical sphere from the 360 camera before - there is usually *something* jutting out.
This was taken on a walk through the salt marshes between Blakeney & Cley on the Norfolk coast & if you'd like to see what it's like in non-spherical form I'm going to add some more photos, as I took a few.
If you don't want to see what it's like in non-spherical form LOOK AWAY NOW, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LOOK AWAY.
*ahem*
1 /n
This is the start of the walk. It features a boat instead of a car, because there is a big warning that the car park can disappear under water at high tide, so the boat felt potentially quite useful.
We had many hours before high tide, but the signs remained slightly unnerving.
2 /n
The path is slightly raised and heads straight out across the salt marshes. The view back to the village is pretty cute. Also a bit heat hazy because it was HOT. I do love a windmill though.
3 /n
This is the view in the other direction, out to sea. IT IS SO VERY, VERY FLAT.
I think I keep repeating that it's flat, but I live in Scotland, in the hills by the Highland Boundary Fault, where it is very NOT FLAT, and it just threw me with its flatness.
So flat.
4 /n
Somewhat perturbed by the flatness (have I mentioned it was flat?) I went in for the detail and was not disappointed. This is, I think, a six-spot Burnet moth and I like them very much.
A lot of my favourite bugs are black and red; it's a good combo.
5 /n
And then this beauty. I looked it up thinking it might be the pre-Burnet moth larva, but their stripes don't seem to be solid. This looks more like cinnabar larva but I'm using the internet so who knows these days. I may resort to my wildlife book if no one pops up and sounds sufficiently authoritative 😁
6 /n
I spent quite a while watching the caterpillars, then realised just to the right there was a scandalous amount of red soldier beetle DEBAUCHERY going on.
It was a party plant, definitely.
7 /n
Anyhow, all quite hot by this point (the sun, not the beetle action) so returned to the car before it floated away. Considered trying to get the boat back, but it didn't seem to be in service.
8 /n
@eclectech Yeah no worries, the previous picture definitely identifies the plant its on as ragwort - the burnet moth caterpillar eats common bird's-foot trefoil which doesn't look like that (looks more like a legume... but yellow flowers unlike most homegrown beans and such)
Caterpillars are quite particular to certain foodplants usually so it's a good way of positively identifying them.
@eclectech Nah there's a huge page debunking ragwort myths.
I'm just very sad now as a moth fan (and generally sad because it's a native plant. one of the few...)
Absolutely not looking for an argument, and I probably won't be contributing to this discussion again. But ragwort *is* a significant problem for horses (and to a lesser extent cattle) and over several decades of veterinary practice, I saw a large number of cases. Horses will - and do - eat it, particularly when it's a young plant, and it's an insidious, cumulative poisoning which causes really awful suffering. Treatment is rarely completely successful, as by the time symptoms show the liver is often damaged beyond repair.
Obviously, it's up to the landowner whether they wish to control it, but I can assure you - if they do so, they're neither falling for the hype nor panicking. Their land, their horses, their choice.
As it goes, it grows in my garden. No horses within 400 yards, no problem. But I do keep it controlled in number.
The article is utterly hopeless, I'm afraid: poorly written - and extrapolating wildly - by somebody with a mahoosive chip on their shoulder. A 'scientific perspective' it is not. As a reminder, anybody can mangle a subject on the internet to suit their own bitter and limited viewpoint - and this is a superb example.
This is why I try not to get involved in these conversations.
(Just for the avoidance of doubt, I spent about thirty years in large animal practice, published papers, conducted research, presented at conferences and taught both large animal medicine at a vet school and large animal vet nursing at degree level. I now dig holes for a living, which is much more fun, and I rarely have to deal with veterinary conspiracy theorists, bless 'em.)
That's the spirit. That report doesn't actually say that, but you selectively interpret away.
For further avoidance of doubt, I'm not debating with you here - I'm telling you, flat-out, that you're wrong and that you absolutely shouldn't be propagating the falsehood that ragwort isn't a danger to horses and cattle. And I'm telling you this from a position of knowledge, long experience and qualification - not from a gut feeling reinforced by misinterpreting information and seeking confirmation bias.
Obviously, I'm done here.
@Badgardener Okay bye.
That report still says it's only toxic when captive fed or fed exclusively and very little evidence of deaths directly relating to ragwort.
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The RHS advice is:
If your garden borders grazing land or land used to grow forage, or contains a paddock, then it is prudent to control ragwort. If you fail to control its spread, you could be served an order under the Weeds Act 1959 to do so. The Ragwort Control Act 2003 sets out a Code of Practice...and non-compliance...can be used as evidence in legal proceedings.
https://www.rhs.org.uk/weeds/ragwort
Luckily my garden isn't near grazing so I could enjoy the caterpillars
@charism8 @eclectech https://ragwortfacts.com/ragwort-law.html A specific legal order is required to be served to the landowner.
This is the biggest problem about ragwort, there's big names spreading misinformation.
@eclectech That’s definitely the best part of the park! When the rhododendrons flower, it’s a carpet of colour from the view of that tower.
The tall tower is ok, but it’s a long way off + a big climb if one of your party didn’t feel great. It’s an especially exposed route with little chance of shade in the hot weather.
@MiniMia Haha, I LOVE a small museum. Would have definitely been in a shell one if I'd seen it!
Very jealous of getting to visit grandparents on a houseboat, I would have found that very exciting as a child (regional museums possibly not so much, I've grown into those 😁)
@eclectech Oh, the grandparents only visited the houseboat with us, but we went up there in school hols all the time, and yes, we LOVED it!
Very much did NOT love the small museums. I remember being in the car on the way to one such establishment and driving past a cinema that was showing Return of the Jedi - so I would have been 10 and my brother 8 - and we basically SCREAMED the place down until we were allowed to go and see it instead of visit whatever dusty old pile we were being taken to 😂
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