Microsoft president Brad Smith acknowledged that the four rounds of layoffs this year are more about using the money saved to fund AI data centers and GPUs than workers being replaced by AI.

I think this is important for the media to get right versus making it seem like ChatGPT can replace a human worker.

@carnage4life I mean, sure “We’re replacing human workers with AI” is I guess slightly better than “We’re spending all our money on AI instead of human workers”.

@carnage4life Which is a bit stupid, if you think about it for more than 5 seconds.

Smith's framing suggests that they'll be more profitable with fewer workers. But in a well run business, each worker should be producing more value than they cost to employ. Which was very much the case for me, but I got laid off all the same.

Their thinking is "for every $1 we put into workers, they return $4, but every $1 we put in A.I. yields $10, so let's reallocate!" Except A.I. isn't making MSFT money.

@Legit_Spaghetti @carnage4life Also plausibly to me, they're thinking that layoffs + AI spend equate to bigger executive bonuses and higher share prices. The modern American executive thinks ahead by one fiscal year at *most* and a good number of them I swear barely think beyond the current quarter.
In the AI Race, Fossil-Powered Generators are Data Centers' Dirty Secret

Environmental groups said gas turbines powering Elon Musk's xAI data center are polluting air in Memphis, and they fear other data centers will do the same.

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@Legit_Spaghetti @carnage4life "Trust me bro, one more AI datacenter, and then we will return a profit."

@carnage4life MSFT's P/E is really high right now, and yet they dispose of their "greatest asset" instead of raising money from the markets? 🤔

I'm no finance guru but I think they're only saying this because GPUs don't get demoralised and underperform when you tell them they're not your most valued asset...

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The other aspect of mass layoffs is how hedge fund managers & petrostate despots are forcing AI.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-06/saudis-plan-100-billion-ai-powerhouse-to-rival-uae-s-tech-hub

https://qz.com/openai-palantir-anthropic-aws-ai-startups-us-defense-1851693801

AI startups hemorrhage money, no revenue, no profits, poor adoption metrics.

With the exception of the ones with government contracts for state surveillance platforms.
https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behavior-2024-9

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/stargate-trump-openai-ellison-1236114430/

Microsoft is giving up on revenue-generating products to focus on a boondoggle.

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Saudi Arabia Plans $100 Billion AI Powerhouse to Rival UAE’s Tech Hub

Saudi Arabia is planning a new artificial intelligence project with backing of as much as $100 billion as it seeks to develop a technological hub to rival the neighboring United Arab Emirates, people familiar with the matter said.

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Big Tech Is Making Big Money. Time for More Layoffs?

Working for the tech giants used to be considered a lucrative, super-stable career. Those days are over, writes John Herrman.

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@carnage4life firing people from money making parts of the company to finance a sunken cost sound like a world-class management decision, someone should give another multi-million dollars bonus to the management board /s

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If we are lucky, Microsoft dies on the AI-hype.

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I don't think it will, I think that has cause and effect the wrong way around. When I worked there, I saw a company that was completely lacking vision, completely unable to manage a strategy that lasted more than six months, and which had no plans for when its cash cows became commodities. It had sales teams pushing engineering towards short-term sales at the expense of products that had room to grow to meet large markets (if you just win the Fortune 500 and lose everyone else, you eventually lose the Fortune 500 as well). It had terrible retention for the best people and rapid promotions for the worst. The core culture is of lying to management: lie to your manager so that they can convincingly lie to theirs, and both of you get promoted and moved somewhere else before the failure is noticed, and by then you have someone else to blame it on.

Chasing the AI hype is a symptom of this.

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imho

If CEOs were replaced by AI, the same amount of money could be saved and operational staff could be retained.

@carnage4life That's insane. That's like getting a divorce to spend the money saved each month on buying a GeForce RTX 5090.

@stitzl @carnage4life You should have married somebody who would support you in your goals to get an RTX 5090...

I think this analogy works for hiring practices too

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They did not say in which way they are replacing their employees with AI. Clearly they mean in the financial sense, replacing one cost with a different one.
@carnage4life ah yes, the media, those amazing getter-righters.
@carnage4life damn, they really don’t like being job creators

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Coincidentally, someone on the company Slack just posted the link to this nugget:

https://addxorrol.blogspot.com/2025/07/a-non-anthropomorphized-view-of-llms.html

It eloquently describes a view of LLMs that is much like my own, and explains why using terms like "hallucination" and "understand" is dangerously misguided.

#ai #llm

A non-anthropomorphized view of LLMs

In many discussions where questions of "alignment" or "AI safety" crop up, I am baffled by seriously intelligent people imbuing almost magic...

@carnage4life Microsoft also said that they will not cancel or block any account when Trump ask it to do so. Microsoft said we in Europe have nothing to worry about
@carnage4life They literally can't afford this pointless venture.
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Also they can't get tax deductions for r&d staff any more
@carnage4life so technically you're saying ai already can replace humans in generating profit for the shareholders? ...i think that was all they wanted to hear anyway.

@carnage4life We know they overhired from 2020-2022 and previous rounds of layoffs were partly about correcting that.

So wouldn't be too surprised if this is also finishing the job on excess headcount (ew) in addition to reallocating the budget

@carnage4life I doubt "acknowledged" is a good way to think about it. People don't get to that kind of role without learning to carefully choose every word that could be made public.