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@mina @bruces wait… why is Merry quasi royalty? I'm missing something...

@mem

»Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck, called The Magnificent, was a Hobbit, the son of Saradoc Brandybuck. [...] Saradoc "Scattergold" Brandybuck was a Hobbit and Master of Buckland.«

https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Meriadoc_Brandybuck

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@mina @mem @bruces

That's Pippin, not Merry, who’s labeled "quasi-royalty". It comes from him being the Shire-thain. Not sure it's exactly right to call him "royalty", though it's similar in a lot of ways. The position was literally called "Shire-king" in the past before the events of LOTR too.

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Shire-thain

Shire-thain

The Shire-thain,[1] also known as the Thain of the Shire, was the title given to the traditional military leader of the Hobbits in the Shire after the fall of Fornost and the Dúnedain Kingdom of Arthedain in the mid-Third Age. The Shire-thain was the master of the Shire-moot and the captain of the Shire-muster. The Hobbits first chose a Shire-thain to rule them in TA 1979 (Shire-reckoning 379), four years after Arvedui, last King of Arthedain, perished. Over time, the Shire-thain became a...

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@pseudosage

True! Will change the alt-text

@mem @bruces

@mina @pseudosage @mem @bruces Ah, I didn't realize that about the Took.

I was long frustrated that they never explain how Bilbo made his living before he goes off on an adventure. It's a detail I could ignore in The Hobbit, when we don't see anything of the Shire except Bilbo's house, but we do see gradations of status in LOTR. I figured Bilbo was probably sort of a minor gentry landlord, on the model of 19th century novels that are too "polite" to mention why the idle rich have money.

@foolishowl

I remember from "the Hobbit" that the Baggins family was a well respected one (which usually means: of money).

I always believed that Bilbo was kind of a land owner, living from rent.

@pseudosage @mem @bruces

@mina @mem @bruces "Quasi-royalty" here seems to refer to people with a role like "steward" of some nation.

Which makes sense.

@mina @bruces The fact that Sam is Frodo's servant in the beginning, rather than a friend, is massively downplayed in the movie.

In the books there is much more development between the two characters.

@mistakenotmy

You're damn right about this aspect, and yet: The trilogy remains an excellent adaption, other than the abomination that was "The Hobbit".

@bruces

@mina @mistakenotmy @bruces

🍿 waiting for the Tom Bombadil replies to this post 🍿

@mina @j3j5 @bruces Tom Bombadil was not in the movie so he would not know anything about it 😀
@mistakenotmy @mina @j3j5 @bruces And I remember how deeply disappointed me and my friends were about that... We hoped he would appear in the long DVD version, but alas...

@j3j5 @mina @mistakenotmy @bruces I'd simply say that the trilogy turned contemplative books in action movies. I was unable to watch the third to the end.

(Many people who loved the movies hated the books, which they found too slow and boring; this is not a surprise to me... I'm much more surprised by the amount of people who loved both)

@mina @bruces

Pippin's dad is the Thain, so he is also quasi-royalty, though decayed royalty might be closer.

Gimli is also a royal cousin.

I'll fetch my coat ...

Gimli is also royally cussin, sometimes. 😏

@iaruffell @mina @bruces

@mina @bruces

This is the best thread ever! 😁

@DoNotPunchDown

Excellent, indeed, but have you seen the one on car walking?

https://berlin.social/@mina/114789460480186692

Mina (@[email protected])

German law allows walking over cars standing in no-parking zones. #Gravy

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@mina

No, I hadn't. Thank you. It's hilarious. Took me awhile to read it because I had to translate all the replies. Used AI for that 😆

@mina @DoNotPunchDown making me wish I could read German.

@ELS @mina

I just used a translator. Not google. I stay away from that thing. But it didn't take too long and was worth it imo.

But yeah, being able to just read German would have been a lot easier 😆

@mina @bruces If Master gave him a sock, Sam would've given it back. He knew his place.

@mina @bruces The only person he caries is Frodo and that only once Frodo is too injured to continue. The other royalty all do heavy lifting, even Boromir, before he dies.

The image isn’t telling the story that the meme creator thinks it is.

@MartyFouts

I reckon, you put too much thought into it.

@bruces

@mina @bruces More like the author put too little. Now if they had said something about the fellowship being entirely male. . ,

@mina @bruces

Excuse me, but Frodo is not low ranked aristocracy. He is high ranked commoner. He's a member of the Gentry, not the nobility.

@mina @bruces who are any of these people and where did they get such terrible fashion sense
@mina @bruces
But (there is always one)
Sam was the only one with a happy family life at the end.
(But (again) this is probably the common myth about common people, set from aristocrats, I think.)