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@acb No. No they are not.
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I’m in Sweden. About ⅔ of the office is micro-retired for the next month or so. (The consensus-minded Swedes do like taking July and/or the first half of August off.) I’m not, but I did a 1½-week micro-retirement in March, and have a shorter one coming up later this summer. Last year, I took most of a month (so, a mini-retirement) to go to Australia.

Framing a week every 1-2 years as a “micro-retirement” sounds like giving the Overton window a further push to normalising servitude.

@acb that was my thinking also - you should not be expected to _return_to_work_ after retiring ...
@acb France and Spain are usually retired in August.
@cdamian @acb The French also micro-retire for 2 hours every lunch time.
@NovaNaturalist @cdamian @acb we call it nano retirement
@simon_lepuissant @NovaNaturalist @cdamian @acb nah it's a shorter micro. the goal is to completely disconnect from work, as deeply as if it was a real micro retirement.
@NovaNaturalist @cdamian @acb Spaniards too. And, if I'm not wrong, Czechs.
@mguerra
Your really arrived in Spain if your lunch retirement goes into your dinner retirement.
@NovaNaturalist @acb
@cdamian @mguerra @acb But do the Spaniards and Czechs get abducted by aliens every lunchtime? I mean, walk anywhere around France at 1pm and it will be eerily deserted.
@NovaNaturalist @cdamian @acb We nano-retire regularly for 5 - 10 Minutes to the toilet

@NovaNaturalist
This saves us from burning out very much indeed

@cdamian @acb

@NovaNaturalist @cdamian @acb That's a nano-retirement ☕
@cdamian @acb based on this, Germany has 3-9 retirements in the time period. Does this mean the Americans have to work longer and start official retirement after death?

@Okuna @cdamian @acb

I believe that is the Trump-Kennedy plan, yes.

@Edelruth @cdamian @acb but doesnt it hit mostly their own voters?
@Okuna @Edelruth @cdamian @acb well, "plan" was a bit overstated, it's more like the idea of a plan
@cdamian @acb It globally started early july this year lol
@acb in Europe this micro-retirements are payed by the company/employer

@acb

Before taking full time retirement, my collective agreement gave me six week micro-retirements every year. That started at 25 years of employment with the same organisation. In my first year I only had three weeks a year.

@Sanderde @acb this is yet another reason why Canada needs to get closer ties with Europe, and fewer ties with the US. 3 weeks micro-retirement a year is not enough to prevent burnout. I don't know of any country in Europe - not even the UK - with such paltry annual micro-retirement. This how the fascist state to our south poisons Canada.

@NovaNaturalist

And the three weeks to start was through the union, which also provided 15 days per year paid sick leave and two days additional paid Personal and Volunteer leave.

@acb

@Sanderde @acb Yes - all across the world, our employment rights were achieved through unionised efforts, against concerted opposition from the powerful and wealthy gangsters.
@Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb I've never been entitled to more than two weeks vacation in my entire life. I've never actually taken more than a week in twenty years. In that time I've never taken time off where I haven't been on call. Articles like that are for maybe 15 percent of the workforce. The rest of us don't get that kind of flexibility and never will.

@mike

It’s no surprise that many European countries top the lists of the happiest places in the world.

It shouldn’t take unions to ensure proper holiday breaks for workers.

@NovaNaturalist @acb

@Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb Agreed! I just hate articles like that, it comes from a very entitled place.

@mike @Sanderde @acb Sorry if I have misunderstood you, but there is nothing "entitled" about recharging your batteries. What is entitled is the expectation from some employers that they can work you without recharging your batteries.

Getting sufficient vacation, like securing the 40 hour / 5 day week is a key success of the labour movement, but there is more work to be done. Canadians are entitled to use Europe as our model and not the US.

@NovaNaturalist @Sanderde @acb I think you're misunderstanding where I'm coming from. I completely agree 100 percent, people should get sufficient vacation time. The entitlement I'm speaking to is that the author doesn't seem to understand that this option is simply not available for most people. So to describe micro-retirement as a generational phenomenon is coming from an entitled head space.
@mike @NovaNaturalist @Sanderde @acb Really? Not even a week per year? Don't you have laws for this? It seems so weird!
(In France we have between five and nine weeks of holidays, sorry, micro-retirements per year, and those are mandatory.)
@RachelC_Y @NovaNaturalist @Sanderde @acb 2 is mandatory however an employer can simply opt to pay you and split that two weeks pay over 52 weeks. Also if you work for yourself there's no such thing.

@mike @NovaNaturalist @Sanderde @acb Thanks for explaining!

We have something similar here (the ability to substitute rest for pay), but it's extremely limited. And you have, by law, the obligation to go on holidays 12 consecutive days in the summer.

I know a lot of people who work for themselves and they go on holidays as well (3/4 in the summer, 1 for Christmas). Maybe it's a cultural thing. We take our holidays very seriously.

Law is even stronger during maternity leave. Employed women are not allowed to work AT ALL. Some woman won a case when she asked (and was granted) access to work during her leave ; her employer was at fault and was condemned.

@NovaNaturalist @mike @Sanderde @acb

Quite so: thinking that ridiculously small holiday entitlement is somehow a hard fact of life is pure Stockholm syndrome.

(Lest I'm given the hair shirt of entitlement to wear in shame, I worked in just such a field for years, where the dial for assistants was set firmly at Masochist. About halfway through, I went freelance and took mahoosive holidays - up to six months - until I decided to stop being on call altogether and switched jobs. I have a low opinion of the argument that it's a necessary reality to do this. Horseshit.)

@mike @Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb This article feels made up.

@jblake @mike @Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb

I think we are feeding the AI monster with micro-retirement vibe. Its called a vacation.
Although I get a chuckle out the micro, nano, pico series of replays:-) well done.

@jblake

“Micro-retirements offer an opportunity to recharge. Gabrielle Siegel, a wealth management advisor at Northwestern Mutual, notes that this is valuable. ‘It’s taking time to focus on what’s bringing you the most happiness, recharging, mentally avoiding burnout, and realigning with your personal goals. Gen Z is looking at the workplace a bit differently, and happiness is an important factor,’ she says.”

https://www.fastcompany.com/91357784/what-is-a-micro-retirement-inside-the-latest-gen-z-trend

Seems legit.

@mike @NovaNaturalist @acb

What is a micro-retirement? Inside the latest Gen Z trend

Burned out and ladened with debt Gen-Z is getting a jump on retirement by going on short unpaid breaks from work: "micro-retirements."

Fast Company
@mike @Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb It’s what I call boomer-goating. They find something maybe a few people are doing or are say they are doing and getting older people mad about it. Before it was Millennials...
@Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb Food for thought for your union: In Germany, we have six weeks of fully compensated sick leave payed by the employer, and then the insurance takes over at 60% salary. (If you get declared permanently unfit for work you’re basically screwed, though.) The minimum days for PTO are 24 working days, and you _have_ to take two consecutive weeks off at least once per year. (This is law.)

@schrotthaufen

With my union, unused annual sick days were carried over (I retired with 275). If used up, insurance paid 70% if you’re unable to work or be reassigned, with medical certification.

In Canada the federal government sets the working standards for federally regulated companies, ie banks. The provinces are responsible for their own regulations.

One fairly recent addition is shared paid maternity/paternity leave for one year, or 18 months on reduced pay.

@NovaNaturalist @acb

@Sanderde Damn, your union must have some real knives out negotiators! @NovaNaturalist @acb

@schrotthaufen

Federal government, with dozens of bargaining units. Usually when one negotiates a nice benefit, the rest tag along on their next contracts.

One useful benefit was converting overtime into time off in lieu which I used a lot (they can’t tax time off). That had to be used up each year or paid out, but the regular vacation leave could be carried over year after year.

@Sanderde Converting overtime into time off is possible in many German companies, too. Very handy, since overtime pay is usually taxed in the highest bracket. PTO carries over, but has to be used in Q1 or you lose it, unfortunately :(

@schrotthaufen

Some companies require the PTO must be used or it’s lost. The Executives in the federal government had that where it had to be used by the end of the fiscal year (Q4) which resulted in many taking it just as the next year’s budgets were being drawn up. 🤦🏻‍♂️

The German way of making it in Q1 makes much more sense, like so many things do.

@schrotthaufen
"and you _have_ to take two consecutive weeks off at least once per year. (This is law.)" - I don't think this is the case. Emplooyees don't have to take two consecutive weeks off once a year, but employers have to give them the opportunity to do that, so it's a right for the employees and an obligation for the employers.

@Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb

@gnaddrig Nope. You have to take off two consecutive weeks once a year. If you don’t, your employer opens themselves up to legal charges, so they make you take that PTO. § 7 (2) https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/burlg/__7.html (no official English translation available) @Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb
§ 7 BUrlG - Einzelnorm

@schrotthaufen @Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb
Then that must have changed at some time in the last 10 or 15 years. At one time, my previous company (in Germany) made a big deal of changing their policy so you couldn't keep vacation days indefinitely like before. Didn't concern me because I never had any left by X-mas anyway. But there were plenty who had amassed literally hundreds of vacation days and noone remembered them ever taking even one day off before that change.

@schrotthaufen @Sanderde @NovaNaturalist @acb

"Then that must have changed at some time in the last 10 or 15 years." - hm, the law became effective in 1963, and §7 (2) BUrlG was not changed, as far as I can find out. Anyway, maybe they hadn't paid much attention and then someone reminded their legal or HR department of §7 (2) and they adapted in a hurry.

@NovaNaturalist @Sanderde @acb
UK allowance is a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid holiday. It applies to all workers including people on zero-hours contracts, with the paid holiday based on the average hours they work per week.
@acb micro-retirement to me should sound more like "Oh yeah, I'm taking 6 months / a year off from career stuff"
@acb yeah I micro-retired for most of April, but since I have some micro-retirement days saved up, I will micro-retire again for most of August.
@acb Oh absolutely. They’re just trying to shame young Americans into the grindset the capitalist class so mind bogglingly successful imposed since generations. They realized that young people saw through the hollow promise of the American dream, and so they try shaming, and guilt trips. And of course they know exhausted workers have less energy to organize. Can’t let the strangling grip of control slip now, can they?
@acb
I'm in Latvia. We distribute our "micros" a bit more evenly through whole summer (June-August), and taking off between Christmas and New Year is also popular. Law provides 4 weeks free every year (at least 2 weeks must be consecutive once per year) for most people and 8 weeks for me because I'm Ph.D. working in scientific government institution. It might be my favorite perk from getting that education.
@acb No, 'micro-retirement' is unpaid, I think you are talking about paid vacation.