TutaJul 3

⚠️ In four days Gemini wants to scan your phone ⚠️

Stop #Google now: 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

#GeminiAI #Google #Android #PrivacyMatters

Show threadOkunaJul 3
@Tutanota welcome to AI agents. Apple will go the same way, Microsoft in Windows as well. And the users will love the benefits, the simplicity.
Show threadan actual bus

@Okuna @Tutanota Idk, looks like the user's opinion is not even a concern from a PR standpoint now.

Notice how they're explicitly stating this is to make things easier for *gemini*, not you.

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TutaJul 3

⚠️ In four days Gemini wants to scan your phone ⚠️

Stop #Google now: 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android

#GeminiAI #Google #Android #PrivacyMatters

Show threadOkunaJul 3
@Tutanota welcome to AI agents. Apple will go the same way, Microsoft in Windows as well. And the users will love the benefits, the simplicity.
Show threadan actual busJul 3

@Okuna @Tutanota Idk, looks like the user's opinion is not even a concern from a PR standpoint now.

Notice how they're explicitly stating this is to make things easier for *gemini*, not you.

Show thread🇨🇦️Dracula🍁Jul 3
@Tutanota Would anything happen if Gemini was not installed, like an automatic install of Gemini and auto-scanning after the possible installation?
Show threadVashtiJul 3
@countdracula @Tutanota Yeah, I don't have a Gemini app (possibly because I've been sulkily refusing to install updates, which may not be the best)
Show thread🇨🇦️Dracula🍁Jul 3
@vashti @Tutanota I updated mine, and it wasn't part of the updates on my Motorola.
Show threadRupert ReynoldsJul 3
@countdracula @vashti @Tutanota Moto G54 here. 'droid 13 has all I need (including 80% charge limit, only about 10 years after I first asked!) so I've also been sulkily refusing 'droid 14 :-)
Show thread𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙖 ☄Jul 3
@countdracula can happen if you have play srore installed/enabled. I suggest you to keep play store disabled and use aurura store in its place
Show threadTorf und SchneeJul 3
@countdracula @Tutanota I second this question, I have Google Assistant disabled in the system for approximately a year (was not able to remove completely), but it does not seem to install "Gemini" in this setup...or thoroughly hiding this fact...
Show thread🇨🇦️Dracula🍁Jul 4
@torf @Tutanota My phone runs Android 14, and it was a voluntary installation, for now anyway.
Show threadCecilia | MeraOrdJul 3
@Tutanota I've read the post, but I'm not sure if it is enough to disable Gemini altogether? I've never used it.
Show threadKalle KniiviläJul 3

@meraord @Tutanota Good thing I just switched to eOS.

https://e.foundation/

e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data

your data is YOUR data

Show threadVeronica Olsen 🏳️‍🌈🇳🇴🌻Jul 3

@meraord @Tutanota On my phone, Samsung S21 with Android 15, I was allowed to disable the Gemini app in Settings > Apps.

Later, I uninstalled it using the dev tools, but that's less straightforward.

Edit: Since this is being boosted, if you want to uninstall it with dev tools, the app ID to do so is com.google.android.apps.bard

Show threadCecilia | MeraOrdJul 3
@veronica ah, thanks! @Tutanota
Show thread𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙖 ☄Jul 3
@veronica @meraord @Tutanota i would say try canta+shizuku if any of you find adb too complex
Show threadAirikr Jul 3

@meraord @Tutanota Install RethinkDNS and block all connections that goes to and from Google. Allow the connections you have to use like for Google Play Store.

By doing this, it will be impossible for Google Gemini to connect to the internet, hipefully making it useless.

Either that or install a custom ROM. If you have a Pixel phone, GrapheneOS is highly recommended. Very easy to install too.

Show threadRejZoRJul 3
@Tutanota They store data for 72 hours because that's how long it takes for them to train models on your data. Then they can delete it because they don't need it anymore.
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 3

@Tutanota Easy to use description. Layperson-question: I don't have this Gemini app on my phone (Galaxy A21s, EU law) and remember that I had already deactivated the search assistant. Does this app appears automatically in 4 days? Or is it hidden somewhere?

(BTW; I even don't believe that Google doesn't collect data if deactivated.)

Show threadUkeleleEricJul 3
@Tutanota As far as I can tell, there is no Gemini on my phone, due probably to the fact that I only install and update via a third-party website, have no Google account on it, and have as much dialled-down and disabled as possible.
Show threadLaserdisc Turtle (Ewan)Jul 3
@Tutanota I currently have both Assistant and Gemini disabled on my Google Pixel Fold (original). No Gemini app to select and change the settings of. Will keep an eye on it and see what happens after the 7th.
Show threadTutaJul 3
@LaserdiscTurtle Great, do keep us in the loop when you spot anything.
Show threadaritrasahaJul 3
@LaserdiscTurtle @Tutanota just use @GrapheneOS why you are on google android. Solve with a single chop
Show threadChaz6Jul 3
@Tutanota billionaires will not be satisfied even when they have complete access to our personal lives.
Show threadLazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈Jul 3
@chaz6 @Tutanota they want access to our minds, to rip us off and sell us back our own thoughts. They truly are the enemy of everything human
Show threadMad A. Argon Jul 3
@Lazarou @chaz6 @Tutanota why I imagined anime-like scene where protagonist, attacked by powerful mind-reading villain, exposes own pain and traumas, causing villain's brain short-circuit and meltdown?
Show threadLazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈Jul 3
@madargon @chaz6 @Tutanota lol, that does sound like an anime!
Show threadan actual busJul 3
@chaz6 @Tutanota They will never be satisfied. These are people who want more itself.
Show threadfabriziobJul 3
@Tutanota Genuine question: if I completely disable Gemini on my Pixel I am sent "back" to Google Assistant.
Is my data actually safer in that case?
I see it reads the screen anyway if I activate it (mostly by mistake) and it absolutely does not have the same settings as Gemini.
Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEJul 3
@Tutanota WTF is Gemini? Do I need to care about it?
Show threadDatalineJul 3
@TimWardCam @Tutanota It is Google's AI assistant. It is on every Android device and in the google browser as the "AI summary" function. Failure to explicitly opt out of this on July 7 will result in Gemini digesting absolutely all of your personal information. Once this happens, nothing can stop "prompt injection" from being used to extract it by a malicious actor, and it will have the capability to perform actions on your behalf that require touching sensitive personal information, and even the most basic weak privacy boundaries are breached. This system is reprehensibly invasive and broken, but it is being pushed out anyway. This deserves everyone's attention.
Show threadTutaJul 3
@somebody Exactly, we must raise awareness now!
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 3

@Tutanota Would be more importqant if you'd answer the questions here from people who don't find the app. Please add that to your article.

@somebody

Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEJul 3
@somebody @Tutanota Once Upon A Time my Android phone (from around 2019) had some sort of Google assistant AI thingy - you could say to it "alarm in 25 minutes" or "walking directions to lighthouse car park" and get something sensible. But that feature disappeared a couple of years ago, and despite the attention of a phone nerd I could never make it come back.
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 3

@somebody I searched my android phone for the Gemini app and can't find it in my app register. The article fails to say where to find it!
I already disabled the search assistant, so did it disable Gemini? Does Gemini come later on my phone by magic? Is it different under EU law?

@TimWardCam @Tutanota

Show threadFrikisadaJul 3
@Tutanota does any of this apply if I don't have gemini installed as an app?
Show thread🦆 ducksel 󰇥Jul 3
Couldn't find the setting, but it's probably because I manually installed Gemini
Show threadEhay2kJul 3

@Tutanota

If we uninstall the Gemini app, won't that do it?

Show threadHumam01001101Jul 3
@Tutanota Can I just disable the application?
Show threadMethodist_Coloring_BookJul 3
@Tutanota I think that those care about AI and privacy and security are not using Google's version of Android
Show threadts 🚉Jul 3
@Eat_Your_Paisleys @Tutanota I think people can come to care about privacy. Not everyone, but it’s worth spreading the message of how important it is. Not just for an individual, but for the people our their lives whose communications, photos, etc. are on our devices
Show threadBard  Jul 3
@Tutanota I don't have a Gemini app, but I'm using a Pixel with my Google account. Is there somewhere else where I can disable this, or do I not have to worry?
Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEJul 3
@Tutanota Step one says "Open the Gemini app from your Android device". But doesn't tell me how to do this. This is typical of the "how to do X on your phone" instructions I come across.
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 3
@TimWardCam It's also my problem: I don't find that app in my app register. Nothing in the article tells me if it comes automatically in some days or if it is hidden somewhere. @Tutanota
Show threadMidnight Spire GamesJul 3
@NatureMC @TimWardCam @Tutanota Right, if this thing is on my phone, I can't find it. Useless article.
Show threadRob\Viewdata UKJul 3
@NatureMC @TimWardCam @Tutanota
No sign of Gemini in my apps, but clicking on (Google) Assistant tells me to switch to Gemini. Thankfully that then tells me I've already disabled it at the domain level :)
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 3

@robert I can't click on Google assistant because I disabled it long before.

The article of Tutanota is just useless without showing screenshots where to find it on Android/Desktop.

@TimWardCam @Tutanota

Show threadMiss MegaphonJul 3

@NatureMC @robert @TimWardCam @Tutanota

this.
Can't find Gemini App, no icon, not in my settings, not via searching my Android for "gemini".

I know it's there somewhere though!
Cause sometimes on my lockscreen there are notifications popping up (not the regular push ones but fancy ones at the bottom) offering to ask Gemini something. Never used it, swiped away those prompts.

Haven't found out what triggers these messages.
I have disabled almost all Google things, even the well hidden stuff.

Show threadBakerellaJul 3
@megaphon @NatureMC @robert @TimWardCam @Tutanota
Einstellungen/Settings - Google - Google Assistant, da habe ich es eben gefunden.
Show threadMiss MegaphonJul 4

@Bakerella @NatureMC @robert @TimWardCam @Tutanota

Das hatte ich auch gefunden, aber es gibt keinen Button zum deaktivieren oder deinstallieren, nur die Optionen WEITER oder NICHT JETZT. Gehe also davon aus, dass dieser Menüpunkt nur ein Angebot 🤪 ist, dessen Nutzung ich nicht freigeschaltet habe.

Danke für den Hinweis mit dem Google Assistant; da war zwar fast alles deaktiviert, aber nicht *ganz* alles; daher wohl die gelegentlichen prompts, doch mal bitte Gemini zu benutzen.
(Nein.)

Show threadMiss MegaphonJul 4
@Bakerella
(übrigens auch noch ein Ding für den Smartphone Unterricht von K1: was für Google Sachen kann man wo deaktivieren und warum sollte man das tun?)
Show threadBakerellaJul 4
@megaphon ich hatte auch noch nicht viel weiter geschaut, war aber froh, das wenigstens irgendwie gefunden zu haben
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 4
@Bakerella Desktop oder Android??? @megaphon @robert @TimWardCam @Tutanota
Show threadMiss MegaphonJul 4
@NatureMC @Bakerella android
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 4
@megaphon @Bakerella Merci. Hab geschaut: Einstellungen - Google - hab ich keinen Assistant (den hab ich längst deaktiviert und Google sehr begrenzt). Stattdessen hab ich "Neue Funktionen Juni 2025": da versteckt sich der gesamte KI-Dreck (bis in die Finanzen von Google Wallet). Dort hab ich die Wahl "ausprobieren" oder "später ausprobieren". Hab ich natürlich letzteres gemacht.
Sieht mir so aus, als könnten sie das in der EU nicht einfach installieren. Mal in den nächsten Tagen checken.
Show threadMiss MegaphonJul 4
@NatureMC @Bakerella ja genau, 'später ausprobieren' entspricht wahrscheinlich der 'nicht jetzt' Funktion bei mir.
Ich hätte die Dinger auch lieber komplett von meinem Handy runter. :/
Show threadPetra van CronenburgJul 4

@megaphon Bei Google selbst schwierig (ich nutze z.B. den Play store). Aber Teile von Google kann man lahmlegen. Hab ich mit Chrome gemacht. Lohnt sich, unter Apps mal nachzuschauen, welche Berechtigungen die Googledienste so haben. Ich hab das mal alles manuell deaktiviert ...

@Bakerella

Show threadAlex TurffJul 3

@NatureMC @TimWardCam @Tutanota
Same for me. I didn't get an email about it though. Is it US only or something?

#geminiai

Show threadTim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPEJul 3
@aturff @NatureMC @Tutanota I have no idea whether I got an email about it or not. I get various random emails from Google, most of which I delete without trying to understand them.