Tuta⚠️ In four days Gemini wants to scan your phone ⚠️
Stop #Google now: 👉 https://tuta.com/blog/how-to-disable-gemini-on-android
Okuna@Tutanota welcome to AI agents. Apple will go the same way, Microsoft in Windows as well. And the users will love the benefits, the simplicity.
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RejZoR@Tutanota They store data for 72 hours because that's how long it takes for them to train models on your data. Then they can delete it because they don't need it anymore.
UkeleleEric@Tutanota As far as I can tell, there is no Gemini on my phone, due probably to the fact that I only install and update via a third-party website, have no Google account on it, and have as much dialled-down and disabled as possible.
Laserdisc Turtle (Ewan)@Tutanota I currently have both Assistant and Gemini disabled on my Google Pixel Fold (original). No Gemini app to select and change the settings of. Will keep an eye on it and see what happens after the 7th.
@LaserdiscTurtle Great, do keep us in the loop when you spot anything.
aritrasaha@LaserdiscTurtle @Tutanota just use @GrapheneOS why you are on google android. Solve with a single chop
Chaz6@Tutanota billionaires will not be satisfied even when they have complete access to our personal lives.
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fabriziob@Tutanota Genuine question: if I completely disable Gemini on my Pixel I am sent "back" to Google Assistant.
Is my data actually safer in that case?
I see it reads the screen anyway if I activate it (mostly by mistake) and it absolutely does not have the same settings as Gemini.
Is my data actually safer in that case?
I see it reads the screen anyway if I activate it (mostly by mistake) and it absolutely does not have the same settings as Gemini.
Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE@Tutanota WTF is Gemini? Do I need to care about it?
Dataline@TimWardCam @Tutanota It is Google's AI assistant. It is on every Android device and in the google browser as the "AI summary" function. Failure to explicitly opt out of this on July 7 will result in Gemini digesting absolutely all of your personal information. Once this happens, nothing can stop "prompt injection" from being used to extract it by a malicious actor, and it will have the capability to perform actions on your behalf that require touching sensitive personal information, and even the most basic weak privacy boundaries are breached. This system is reprehensibly invasive and broken, but it is being pushed out anyway. This deserves everyone's attention.
@somebody Exactly, we must raise awareness now!
@somebody @Tutanota Once Upon A Time my Android phone (from around 2019) had some sort of Google assistant AI thingy - you could say to it "alarm in 25 minutes" or "walking directions to lighthouse car park" and get something sensible. But that feature disappeared a couple of years ago, and despite the attention of a phone nerd I could never make it come back.
Frikisada@Tutanota does any of this apply if I don't have gemini installed as an app?
🦆 ducksel Couldn't find the setting, but it's probably because I manually installed Gemini
Ehay2kIf we uninstall the Gemini app, won't that do it?
Bard 
@Tutanota I don't have a Gemini app, but I'm using a Pixel with my Google account. Is there somewhere else where I can disable this, or do I not have to worry?
@Tutanota Step one says "Open the Gemini app from your Android device". But doesn't tell me how to do this. This is typical of the "how to do X on your phone" instructions I come across.
Jennifer Moore 😷Same! Can't find where all of this is supposed to be happening.
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Heredity OS@Tutanota Using android means you need to use Google Play services which is spyware.
The Turtle@Tutanota it's kinda nice running an android phone that's apparently too old for them to bother fucking with. Gemini can't run at all on Android 8, so guess what I run? No app to delete.
Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC@Tutanota There is no Gemini on my smartphone, and neither is it to be found on my tablet. Maybe it's installed by default on newer Android versions, idk.
Konfetti 🎉🐳@LordCaramac @Tutanota
Same for me and several comments above stating this situation as well. Maybe there is some information missing @Tutanota
Same for me and several comments above stating this situation as well. Maybe there is some information missing @Tutanota
guust@Tutanota thnx for this tutorial, excellent stuff. What if you don't see the Gemini app in your app list? I have android14, it's also updated.. not sure if i disabled it before, but can't find it in the disabled apps either..
AW 🏳️🌈✊☮️🇧🇪🇺🇦@Tutanota The first time I booted my new phone I was able to remove the Gemini app, when I finished the Google FI set up, it came back and I am no longer able to uninstall the app, just disable it..
Gytis Repečka@Tutanota Google Gemini is installed with Android 15, it arrives automatically when updating to this version. You can disable it or use ADB to remove app completely - package ID is 
com.google.android.apps.bard 
ivanhoe@Tutanota
Looks like sometimes it can be an advantage that your phone is no longer supported with software updates. But of course it doesn't make it easier to shop for a new phone.
Looks like sometimes it can be an advantage that your phone is no longer supported with software updates. But of course it doesn't make it easier to shop for a new phone.
Murphestophelese MurphMeisterDoes anyone know if this is still the case if I've never used the Gemini app? I looked into disabling the settings, and on the "Review key info to access Gemini" screen, (I had never enabled it) It gives options for "Use Gemini" and "No thanks"
If I click No thanks, should I be not using it, or allowing it at all?
Seems surprisingly clear, in the "Ask me later" generation of apps.
meduz'@Tutanota Talking about AI… why do you enable auto-translation on your blog without first asking the user?
Last one who did this was Google’s https://web.dev and it’s annoying every time.
@meduz It's not AI, the website detects your browser settings and changes to this language. If you scroll down, to the right, you can switch back to English.
@Tutanota Okay, thanks. My UI recommendations:
- handle the change server side and not while I’ve started reading in the UI
- move the language selector in the main navigation at the top
- before switching language, ask the user (e.g. show a banner “This article is also available in {detected language}.” With a button “Change language to {language}”.
- handle the change server side and not while I’ve started reading in the UI
- move the language selector in the main navigation at the top
- before switching language, ask the user (e.g. show a banner “This article is also available in {detected language}.” With a button “Change language to {language}”.
Qybat@Tutanota I can't find any of these options on mine, so it's probably device- or region-specific. I know I have something gemini-ish on there because if I hold down the home button a few tens of miliseconds too long it decides to interpret that as a 'voice prompt gemini' press.
@Tutanota I don't think gemini is installed on my Moto g. Should I install and then cut it off per your description? Bit confused here as you can tell.
@JohnCrowden If it's not installed, you're good. It might get installed with an update...
⚝ Mirko ⚝@Tutanota You can just uninstall it. Very simple.
And since it's very intrusive, you will instantly know, if it gets newly installed by an update.
Tanguy ⧓ Herrmann@Tutanota can't they leave us the FUCK alone?
We already paid for those devices, they don't need our soul on top of that.
JFC
BardMoss the Bodhi Linux Guy@Tutanota
I don't have WhatsApp, and I don't see Gemini listed in my apps. But it keeps trying to turn on AI in all my searches. Even though I turn it off and hit save. Every time I reboot it's on again. Now what?
I don't have WhatsApp, and I don't see Gemini listed in my apps. But it keeps trying to turn on AI in all my searches. Even though I turn it off and hit save. Every time I reboot it's on again. Now what?