Bjorn Stahl
Jeff AtwoodThis is very aggressively (perhaps too aggressively) stated, but he's absolutely right. People are all worried their ideas are gonna be "stolen", and my friends, I can assure you that won't be the problem.
sumokirby 🌯@codinghorror It made the Winklevoss twins $65M tho
J. Peterson@codinghorror Likewise: Publishing your ideas in any public forum -prevents- everybody else from patenting it.
(You still have one year from the date of publication to file a patent (in the US) if that's your jam).
Andrew Zonenberg@isonno @codinghorror I've referred to this as the "scorched earth IP policy".
Publish early, publish often, become prior art against everyone. Even yourself.
@isonno @codinghorror (I did this with some research code in school to minimize the chances of the school attempting to patent anything from out under me)
Flaming Cheeto@isonno @codinghorror stromboli necklace! (Start the clock)
Coryndon Luxmoore@codinghorror Idea stealing is code for I never got off my ass to build it
Ruud Steltenpool@codinghorror Plus, what if having your idea 'stolen' actually helps in creating the effect you were after, that got you to come up with the idea in the first place? Or was getting rich the original idea? Or, what if having your idea out in the open lowers the risk of actually having it bought/stolen and then buried?
🅱🅻🆄🅴🅱️Truth.
MegatronicThronBanksWell spoken. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It is designs that are the hard parts.
@megatronicthronbanks @codinghorror
Little column A, little column B.
Broad ideas like... Make it work good.
Are a dime a dozen.
But an equation and basic implementation proof of concept all packaged together? Now that's the stuff.
But even then. The ideas that get green lit... The people doing it often don't fully understand the business realities. So I feel like the make stuff gooder ideas often win out.
There is also a bias towards new and flashy tech over time tested methods implemented well.
That's one of the reasons AI is getting shoved into everything right now. It's 'sexy'.
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Bruce Elrick@codinghorror
All things considered, ideas are relatively easy compared to executing on them.
All things considered, ideas are relatively easy compared to executing on them.
Steve Holden
Dr Andrew A. Adams #FBPE 🔶@holdenweb @codinghorror
See also The Cathedral and the Bazaar
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
(Yes, I know his other ideas are toxic, but this analysis is still worth reading.)
The Open Access Movement for academic literature
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Open_Access_Initiative
See also The Cathedral and the Bazaar
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
(Yes, I know his other ideas are toxic, but this analysis is still worth reading.)
The Open Access Movement for academic literature
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Open_Access_Initiative
🇪🇷Götterdämmerung@codinghorror Yup cuz good ideas aren't stolen. They're ignored. The real threat isn't theft. It's indifference. Most don't want your idea. They want validation, predictability, or a paycheck. Innovation is a foreign language & the average listener is allergic to subtitles.
If your ideas is truly disruptive, expect resistance not robbery. You must evangelize, market, explain, defend, simplify & repeat till it's palatable to people who think new means changing the font.
@codinghorror The paranoid dream of idea theft flatters ego.
Implying genius is so obvious that someone will sprint off with it. Reality is you'll be lucky if anyone notices, let alone gives a shit enough to plagiarize.
Ideas are starved, not stolen. Stop hoarding & start pitching.
Loudly, relentlessly & with the stubbornness of a heretic at a revival.
@codinghorror As for thieves: good luck stealing my sketchbook. 🫡
I’ve got thousands more. You can’t plagiarize my voice, my line work, or my madness. Try keeping up.
Luke Kanies@codinghorror this has absolutely been one of my mantras.
Irenes (many)@codinghorror yeah, we contemplated that one a long, long time ago and it's been part of how we think ever since. you're right about the aggressive phrasing, but the substance is right on....
besides, it's a much more pleasant world if you just assume this is mostly true and act accordingly. way less cutthroat.
Nova🐧✨@ireneista @codinghorror very good to know, got examples?
@technobaboo @codinghorror Stardust!!! heh
@ireneista @codinghorror any others though? :p
I mean stardust has all of movie holograms as reference
@technobaboo @codinghorror you sell yourself short, there are a lot more ideas than that in it. at most Hollywood offers design inspiration, it says nothing about technical architecture
but anyway, like... look at how NixOS took like twenty years to take off, despite having the core ideas from the start
@ireneista @codinghorror I meant more like pointing to movie holograms as to why people would think it's a good idea...
but yeah tbh convincing people it's a good idea is the easy part, building it is hard
Leonard Ritter@codinghorror what if the ideas are shit? i guess then i'm throat ramming too
"Mutant Rob" Robert RothenbergI'm not so sure about this. I feel like Silicon Valley is trying to shove a lot of bad ideas down our throats.
Yora@codinghorror Ideas are not products. Executions of ideas are products.
And those are vastly more difficult to steal.
And those are vastly more difficult to steal.
Timothy Wolodzko@codinghorror But I think it misses the point. One thing is when you come up with "something" (an idea, work of art, etc) and people start using it or copying it. You can call it piracy, but many people would not have problems with it to some degree. Another thing is when someone takes it and makes money from it instead of you. If you watch a pirated movie, the creators don't get paid, but if you sell such movies, you're directly stealing from them.
JWcph, Radicalized By Decency@codinghorror Heartily agree - Iwork with inventors & designers & weekly have to explain to somebody how unlikely it is that someone steals their idea & how hard it is to do... 😝
@codinghorror - and if you successfully keep your secret it will never be realized & even if you patent it you still have to be able to defend your patent, or it's not worth the paper it's written on.
Ben Aveling@codinghorror But what if my ideas are bad? AFAICT, those are the ideas that people do want to steal.