#ArXiv is a rebel movement gone mainstream.

-- Licia Verde at #EAS2025, from her speech accepting Jocelyn Bell Burnell Inspiration Medal from the European Astronomical Society on behalf of ArXiv

#OpenScience

A day in the life of a researcher: get up, get coffee, check #Arxiv

#astrodon #eas2025

And here a lovely overview of #ArXiv statistics from Ralph Wijers.

#astrodon #OpenScience #eas2025

Whoa... With the new software (so pretty soon) the #ArXiv order will be randomized. No more race to rhe first to submit on a given day!

#astrodon #EAS2025

@vicgrinberg maybe I am being ignorant here - is there a serious race for the first submission?
@PetraSchwer yes - partially because someone has shown a correlation between placement among the first entries (and thus increased visibility) and paper impact/citations - eg https://arxiv.org/abs/0712.1037 & https://arxiv.org/abs/0805.0307
The Importance of Being First: Position Dependent Citation Rates on arXiv:astro-ph

We study the dependence of citation counts of e-prints published on the arXiv:astro-ph server on their position in the daily astro-ph listing. Using the SPIRES literature database we reconstruct the astro-ph listings from July 2002 to December 2005 and determine citation counts for e-prints from their ADS entry. We use Zipf plots to analyze the citation distributions for each astro-ph position. We find that e-prints appearing at or near the top of the astro-ph mailings receive significantly more citations than those further down the list. This difference is significant at the 7 sigma level and on average amounts to two times more citations for papers at the top than those further down the listing. We propose three possible non-exclusive explanations for this positional citation effect and try to test them. We conclude that self-promotion by authors plays a role in the observed effect but cannot exclude that increased visibility at the top of the daily listings contributes to higher citation counts as well. We can rule out that the positional dependence of citations is caused by the coincidence of the submission deadline with the working hours of a geographically constrained set of intrinsically higher cited authors. We discuss several ways of mitigating the observed effect, including splitting astro-ph into several subject classes, randomizing the order of e-prints, and a novel approach to sorting entries by relevance to individual readers.

arXiv.org
@vicgrinberg oh wow. That is crazy. Maybe math is not so bad because our overall citation numbers are much, much lower than in other fields?
@PetraSchwer well possible! In my area (astro-ph) it's now about ~100 arxiv entries per day!

@vicgrinberg @PetraSchwer Wow, so many?
plasm-ph is O(20) -- today was quieter than average: only 2 new papers + 4 new revisions. Thankfully I never heard of anyone who cared about the order.

Nonetheless it will be great if they're randomized. Less accidental timezone bias I guess, even for those who don't try to game it.

@hattom @PetraSchwer yeah, astro-ph is further subdivided in sub-categories, but most people's interests span more than a single subcategory (nature does not lead itself to being put into neat boxes as ever), so I hardly know anyone who looks just at one subcategory though I know a lot of folks who use some kind of overlay that re-orders things according to their preferences.
@vicgrinberg @PetraSchwer today I came across a reference item in a paper that missed the last digit in the arxiv digit. So I tried swapping in 0,1,2,3 until I got to the right topic. It's a crazy ride in topics. I recommend trying.

@PetraSchwer @vicgrinberg yes… and I’m afraid you’ll easily guess the gender for the worst offenders…

However, what I have observed was more Iike trying to see if it could be done, more than really needing to do it. I overheard more than one colleague, at different institutes, talking about the best strategies to do that… including overflowing the current issue just enough. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@juandesant @vicgrinberg No need to guess... Happy to get rid of any such useless competition
@vicgrinberg
I have a script that orders the list according to specific key words that are up- or down weighted. So this race never had an effect for me (although I have to admit that I did that also for a paper during my PhD).
@brunthal I know so many folks who have some kind of script of their own!
@vicgrinberg Oooo that's a good thing! I always thought that was a stupid annoying game to try to be first...
@sundogplanets yes! There wasn't a clear timeline given but there was spontaneous applause when the statement happened!