Following a rich white man to war because you didn’t like the sound of a black woman laughing will go down in American history as one of the stupidest things ever.
@Strandjunker Well under that laughing woman they were already bombing and massacring #Palestinians
Do not cover one war monger with another.
#biden4genocide #kamala4genocide
@disisdeguey @Strandjunker not like this they weren’t. Congratulations on your contribution to what’s happening, you must feel so proud of yourself.
@BenAveling @Strandjunker Yes they were Supporting AND accomplice of GENOCIDE. Congratulations if you voted for genociders.
@disisdeguey Not on this scale they weren't. You hit that fastforward button, you got what everyone told you you'd get. You chose the greater evil. You won. Get over it.
@Strandjunker

@BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

It was as bad under Biden. Genocide is genocide is genocide. Stop trying to rationalize.

@Strandjunker @contrasocial @BenAveling @disisdeguey Trump is merely the mask coming off of an underlying rot in American politics and society that has been festering and growing for decades. Harris's administration would have been less egregiously fascist, yes, and voting for her would have staved off a lot of suffering, yes, but only temporarily and only for certain people. I'm not saying that isn't worth it; I'm personally all for maximizing utility and the pragmatic application of power, but I'm also not going to blame or shame people who decided that there wasn't a lot of sense in voting either way for "which smiling face heads the giant oppression machine", as they saw a Democratic Party that is currently in the process of adopting all of the ideals and talking points of fascists. That choice wasn't (in their eyes) actually going to change anything about the material conditions of them or their community, so they chose neither.

The best thing we can be doing now is building strong and resilient communities that help and protect each other outside of the transactional expectations put upon us, and trying our best to counter the pressure to be isolated and alone and powerless. Strong community can't be taken away by a new person taking office every four years.

@contrasocial @Strandjunker @BenAveling @disisdeguey We can't say for certain whether the current genocide would have been "worse" or "better" if Harris had been elected instead of Trump, but honestly that question is kinda irrelevant. To repeat @contrasocial, genocide is genocide.

@contrasocial @BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker There are innocent people in a Salvadoran concentration camp. Masked men are rounding up innocents by the thousands every day.

It is beyond obvious to everybody that things in the world are FAR worse today than they were a year ago. Both sides are NOT the same, no matter how many times you say it. This kind of lying is pro-MAGA propaganda. I believe 99% of people in the #Fediverse are smart enough to see that, but for some reason I still feel compelled to point it out.

@contrasocial @BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker Let me get this straight, you are advocating for more genocide in order to own the dems for not doing more to stop genocide? They were fighting to end the genocide while Trump is cheering it on and wants all Palestinians and Ukrainians wiped off the face of the earth. Is that what you are saying here? And stop with the false moral high ground. No one outside of Israel is capable of stopping the genocide unless they off Bibi and ALL his supporters. So to claim ANY US candidate could end the genocide is a false statement and you know it.

@bishop @BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

No. You can't resist genocide by building a party led by genocide supporters (i.e. zionists).

Harris couldn't even bring herself to condemn the genocide, or even let Palestinians who wanted to help her get elected speak at the DNC. She and Biden support the slaughter as much as Trump.

Israel is a client of the US. The genocide ends when we stop supplying them with the means of carrying it out. US admins have stopped Israeli bombings before.

The Democrats certainly could have done more to stop the genocide, should have even. But Trump is turbocharging it. Of course, the people in this thread who wanted Trump to win knew that. They were happy to sacrifice the Palestinians, and still are. They're just not happy to admit it.
@bishop @contrasocial @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

@BenAveling @bishop @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

No, Trump Biden and Harris were identical on the genocide. There was no "turbocharging" just completely hands off, uninterrupted support for the slaughter by all parties from start to present.

A couple of months back Palestine still had hospitals and universities and shit. Now they don't. So congratulations I guess, your boy won and you're getting what you fought so hard for.
@contrasocial @bishop @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

@BenAveling @bishop @disisdeguey @Strandjunker

Israel has been bombing hospitals and demoing water infrastructure since the first months of the genocide, there's been no acceleration because it was already full speed with no friction from the US or international community. You simply chose to ignore it under Biden.

The only choice that was left to the anti-genocide coalition was to let the Democratic party break itself so it can be rebuilt into an anti-genocide party.

@BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker nobody said they voted for trump, they just said they don't support the Democrats, you're twisting the narrative. People want to hold them responsible for actively supporting genocide. You can't blame your way out of the democrats running on a loser platform that is pro genocide and unpopular, you lost. Get over it and hold *everyone* accountable to make things better.
There were two choices. I guess you got the one you wanted. Congratulations, you won.
What now?
@disisdeguey @GLaDTheresCake @Strandjunker
@BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker so we can hold you personally responsible for all the horrible things Democrats make and let happen if they get elected again as well or does the hypocrisy only flow one way with you? Also I'm European mate, I can't vote in your elections.
I’m not American either. But, much as you are trying to persuade ppl to let Trump win, I am trying to persuade ppl to oppose Trump, even if that means voting Democrat. So yes, if the Democrats get back in and if they turn out to be worse than Trump, you may in some small measure blame me. @disisdeguey @Strandjunker @GLaDTheresCake
@BenAveling @Strandjunker @GLaDTheresCake The point is that Democrats are also like Republicans. There's no difference. Obama was a war criminal as much as it was Bush sr of Jr. And we don't need democrats to win again to demostrate how sweet or not they are, BIDEN (a so called Zionist himself) helped to kill thousands of Palestinians. WE WATCHED LIVE. #donaldtacotrump it's just the continuity of #USrael policy in the last 100 years. The real terrorists disguised as "saviors" The only hope is that US empire falls once and for all, soon.

@GLaDTheresCake @BenAveling @disisdeguey @Strandjunker Good thing you didn’t vote for the genociding Democrats, the other candidate won and all the genociding is fixed now.

/s

@MisuseCase @GLaDTheresCake @BenAveling @Strandjunker This is the problem you still thinking in Black or white as an spectrum. They lied to you, both of them. The #USrael is not a democracy per se. Welcome to the Red pill side.
@disisdeguey @GLaDTheresCake @BenAveling @Strandjunker Ew, red pill? Like the manosphere red pill? No thanks.

@disisdeguey @GLaDTheresCake @BenAveling @Strandjunker It was a Matrix reference and a conspiracy theory bit when the manosphere people started using it too.

Thanks for leaning into the stereotype that right-wingers and left-wingers are the same. /s